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re: for those of you annointing Tebow after going 4-1 as a starter
Posted on 11/18/11 at 9:51 am to JBeam
Posted on 11/18/11 at 9:51 am to JBeam
As I said on the other thread:
I hate the narrative that's built up around him, just as I hate the narrative that was built up around Mark Sanchez over the last two years, and the narrative built up around Vince Young before him.
Those three are simply not good quarterbacks, yet people are running around praising them as if they are (or were) because of "record as a starter".
I hate the narrative that's built up around him, just as I hate the narrative that was built up around Mark Sanchez over the last two years, and the narrative built up around Vince Young before him.
Those three are simply not good quarterbacks, yet people are running around praising them as if they are (or were) because of "record as a starter".
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Posted on 11/18/11 at 9:51 am to Sophandros
quote:But he's still better than anything else that the Broncos have.
I don't hate Tebow. I just think he's a horrible QB.
Posted on 11/18/11 at 9:52 am to JBeam
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it has nothing to do with how i live my life....you and i both know that ESPN will be running this Tebow story into the ground. It's a nice "feel good" story
All I've heard from ESPN is what a hack Tebow is
Merrill Hoge?
Posted on 11/18/11 at 9:52 am to GeauxTigersLee
No, he really isn't. But go on believing that.
Posted on 11/18/11 at 9:53 am to Choupique19
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Answer: Because ESPN has spent the last month asking every fomer NFL player and every "never-played but I run my mouth on tv/radio personality" if Tebow is any good? Almost unanimously they all answered, "No, Tebow is a terrible quarterback." Now after 5 games, the Broncos, which have been about the 2nd worst team in the NFL for the last two years in games that Tebow didn't start are 4-1, and back in the hunt for the division title. That's why it's a feel good story.
It's apparently just a coincidence that the Broncos are winning with Tebow at quarterback.
Posted on 11/18/11 at 9:53 am to Sophandros
quote:So you think the coaching staff puts a worse QB option on the field that hurts their chance of winning the game?
No, he really isn't. But go on believing that.
Now you're making no sense.
Posted on 11/18/11 at 9:54 am to Sophandros
quote:
No, he really isn't. But go on believing that.
Is it just coincidence that the Broncos have won with Tebow this season, and they couldn't with Orton?
Posted on 11/18/11 at 9:55 am to Boh
So by your logic, John Skelton is a better QB than Kevin Kolb.
And up until this year, Mark Sanchez was a good QB, by your reasoning.
And of course, Vince Young is a good QB...
TEAMS win games, not QBs. Denver's defense has seriously stepped it up in recent games, for example.
And up until this year, Mark Sanchez was a good QB, by your reasoning.
And of course, Vince Young is a good QB...
TEAMS win games, not QBs. Denver's defense has seriously stepped it up in recent games, for example.
Posted on 11/18/11 at 9:55 am to Sophandros
Tebow has played in like 8 games mostly for coaches intentionally sandbagging his development and you want to compare his 8 games as a starter to guys like VY and Sanchez who have 50+ starts
Has it occurred to anyone that he might actually improve?
Has it occurred to anyone that he might actually improve?
Posted on 11/18/11 at 9:56 am to Sophandros
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No, he really isn't. But go on believing that.
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Posted on 11/18/11 at 9:56 am to Sophandros
quote:
hate the narrative that's built up around him, just as I hate the narrative that was built up around Mark Sanchez over the last two years, and the narrative built up around Vince Young before him.
Those three are simply not good quarterbacks, yet people are running around praising them as if they are (or were) because of "record as a starter".
Fair enough. But what about the people that are kicking and screaming, "Tebow is terrible! He can't pass! He's an embarrassment to the NFL!" Doesn't that seem a little far fetched seeing that he has had a 300 yard passing game as a pro. He led his offense to 38 points vs the Raiders. He is 5-3 as a starter with the same team that was 4-14 without him.
Posted on 11/18/11 at 9:56 am to DelU249
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Has it occurred to anyone that he might actually improve?
he hasn't shown any improvement yet.
As of right now, Tebow is a bad NFL QB. When people state that, we're called "haters". It's not "hating", it's just a fact.
Tell me, what has Tebow done to show that he's a good NFL QB?
Posted on 11/18/11 at 9:57 am to Sophandros
So it is just coincidence that the defense plays better when Tebow starts. Got it.
Posted on 11/18/11 at 9:59 am to Sophandros
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Tell me, what has Tebow done to show that he's a good NFL QB?
Any player in the NFL will tell you that they want to win. He has energized the Broncos organization, you can't deny that.
It's nasty looking, but if he's part of a winning equation in Denver, what's the problem? Don't think he'll be able to drive a team 95 yards in 5 minutes to win a game, because he can't throw?
Posted on 11/18/11 at 9:59 am to CptBengal
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Posted on 11/18/11 at 9:59 am to Boh
quote:
So it is just coincidence that the defense plays better when Tebow starts. Got it.
Yes, it is.
Again, the same narrative that people are having right now with Tebow is what we had with Sanchez over the last couple years and what we had with Young before that.
Crediting team accomplishments to the QB is foolish, at best.
Posted on 11/18/11 at 10:01 am to Sophandros
I'm just saying he's a positive influence on the team and he has contributed in the clutch to wins. I think that's a fair assessment.
I'd still take a lot of quarterbacks before I'd take him. I think it's fascinating how polarizing he is for just playing the position differently than the great ones do it.
I'd still take a lot of quarterbacks before I'd take him. I think it's fascinating how polarizing he is for just playing the position differently than the great ones do it.
Posted on 11/18/11 at 10:01 am to Sophandros
he's played in 8 games...8 And it is pretty well documented that he has had little support from the front office and the coaching staff
Those other guys you mentioned played on playoff teams and started over 50 games not to mention better players on offense. Tebow plays on a shite offense and while the D has improved, their overall performance this year has not been good. Basically, a shite team
Posted on 11/18/11 at 10:01 am to lsu480
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Their is no way you really believe this. Almost everyone is in the NFL because they gave it they're all from a young age AND have talent.
JaMarcus Russell says hello.
They all have talent. Some have more than others. Some work harder than others. And some are able to put both together.
Posted on 11/18/11 at 10:03 am to Boh
quote:
Don't think he'll be able to drive a team 95 yards in 5 minutes to win a game, because he can't throw?
The rest of the game (a much larger sample, by the way), 7 out of 11 drives ended in three and out. 2 out of those 11 managed to go over 20 yards. Starting in NY territory FIVE times, they managed THREE points. On the last drive, he threw for 35 of his 104 yards passing.
You can't claim that a guy who completes less than 50% of his passes is a good QB. Period.
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