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re: Floyd Mayweather vs. Canelo Alvarez set for September 14

Posted on 5/30/13 at 11:08 pm to
Posted by WHATDOINO
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 5/30/13 at 11:08 pm to
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VerlanderBEAST


I am marking you off the list also. You arent even debating or diacussing the issues. I think floyd must have fricked your sister or something.

You could at least try to be intelligent with your answers and responses.


You keep saying this fight is meaningless, blah blah blah . Please read the answers you have gotten along with your post and come back.

If your next post isnt" holy shite Im retarded" , you should post less.

This post was edited on 5/30/13 at 11:14 pm
Posted by UFownstSECsince1950
Member since Dec 2009
32813 posts
Posted on 5/30/13 at 11:13 pm to
I'll reiterate.....

I'm not mad at PBF for making this a catchweight fight at 152.....this is the fight I wanted to see.

But since it's at 152 (and not 154), it's bullshite that the 154 belts are on the line (not that these belts hold any value anyways).

Does anyone agree/disagree that it's utter bullshite someone can fight for a belt at a different weight? And this is not singling out Floyd, as this is bullshite for all.
Posted by WelcomeToDeathValley
1st & 1st
Member since Aug 2006
16947 posts
Posted on 5/30/13 at 11:15 pm to
So 2 fights is your "sell" here?
Posted by WHATDOINO
Member since Dec 2008
6909 posts
Posted on 5/30/13 at 11:17 pm to
quote:

oes anyone agree/disagree that it's utter bullshite someone can fight for a belt at a different weight? And this is not singling out Floyd, as this is bullshite for all.




This is a good point and i agree with you. The belts in boxing have been nothing more than decorations as far as importance goes. The governing bodies are a joke and i really to be honest dont keep up with champions anymore for this reason alone. I had a discusion on this a few days ago.

You cant look at belts any longer because its rare that the top fighter actually holds it.
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
19231 posts
Posted on 5/30/13 at 11:23 pm to
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Your question has been answered on three pages in this thread. Learn to read.


well say it one more time
Posted by Patrick_Bateman
Member since Jan 2012
17823 posts
Posted on 5/31/13 at 12:04 am to
This thread exploded since I last visited it. I haven't read the past 4 pages, but to anyone griping about the catchweight: It takes two to reach an agreement. If Canelo didn't want to fight at 152 or thought that it would in any way impair his chances of winning, he could've declined the fight. Or he could've refused to put his belts on the line. IMO, Canelo wants this fight much more than Mayweather. May will make $30+ million no matter who he fights, but this is Canelo's only shot at a huge payday. So, he agreed to - or, as I said on page 3, maybe even proposed - the catch weight.

I don't think it will be an issue at all. Both fighters will be at full strength, and both will be ready to put on a great show.
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
19231 posts
Posted on 5/31/13 at 12:44 am to
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I don't think it will be an issue at all. Both fighters will be at full strength, and both will be ready to put on a great show.


If Canelo is going to be at full strength why make the catchweight? Why is 154 all of a sudden a problem? Why? Why? Why?
This post was edited on 5/31/13 at 12:45 am
Posted by smash williams
San Diego
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 5/31/13 at 1:37 am to
I have no issue with the catch weight at all. Two champions reached an agreement. Floyd is getting up there in age and I can understand not wanting to add and drop weight at this point of his career. Canelo is still a very young fighter and 2 lbs won't be a challenge, 147 would be a bad idea for him though.
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
19231 posts
Posted on 5/31/13 at 2:08 am to
quote:

I have no issue with the catch weight at all. Two champions reached an agreement. Floyd is getting up there in age and I can understand not wanting to add and drop weight at this point of his career. Canelo is still a very young fighter and 2 lbs won't be a challenge, 147 would be a bad idea for him though.


He had no problem fighting at 154 a year ago so what is the problem now?

Also lets see what Floyd thinks about catch weights LINK
This post was edited on 5/31/13 at 2:13 am
Posted by tigerpimpbot
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Member since Nov 2011
68787 posts
Posted on 5/31/13 at 6:45 am to
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If Canelo is going to be at full strength why make the catchweight? Why is 154 all of a sudden a problem? Why? Why? Why?


Because Floyd wants every advantage he can get Canelo to agree to in order to win the fight?
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
Member since Oct 2007
45656 posts
Posted on 5/31/13 at 8:54 am to
I haven't watched a Mayweather fight in years. The reason is I never thought the opponent had a legit shot.

I'll probably watch this one. I think Floyd will have his hands full and might get stopped.
Posted by nofear67
Houston
Member since Jan 2006
2308 posts
Posted on 5/31/13 at 9:07 am to
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VerlanderBEAST

STFU already. You really sound like a fricking little BITCH!
Posted by TruLsu
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
8934 posts
Posted on 5/31/13 at 9:37 am to
Wow clicked on this thread this morning because I saw it blew up. Was really hoping it was legit boxing talk/debate but wow just wow.

Lot of ignorance in this thread and I can honestly only take a few people seriously. I'm just hoping verlander and sdv were trolling, if not well I have nothing to say.

And for them two bitching at the catch weight. shite there are lots of catch weights for lots of fights. Mayweather and Canelo wanted to put both their titles on the line so they made an agreement on what weight to fight. Is it that hard to comprehend?

If either thought they couldn't perform at 152 they wouldn't have agreed or they wouldn't have put the titles on the line.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 5/31/13 at 9:48 am to



I could care less about the weight

Just insane that ppl think its irrational to think Cinnamon has a real shot in this fight

And what fighter other than GheyLa Hoya has been bigger than Floyd the past 5yrs?

Cotto took Money all 12rds and bloody his face up

Trout beat Cotto. Cinnamon beat Trout.

And there's no chance Mayweather gets punched in this fight?

Gtfo with that
Posted by TruLsu
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
8934 posts
Posted on 5/31/13 at 9:59 am to
My opinion on the fight is this, Mayweather will be the fastest, best defensive fighter Alvarez has seen. The first few rounds Alvarez will be countered left and right and will have to adjust to be more defensive because he will be getting hit 3-4 times more than he will be hitting Mayweather.

After about round 4 or 5 he will become tired and frustrated and then the fight will become 100% one sided towards mayweather and Alvarez will be out of his style of boxing and will just be hit and hit repeatedly while not being able to dish out anything.

Mayweather will cruise at this point.

Alvarez has the power and enough skill to potentially hit him early and hurt him, but it will have to be early, I don't see that happening late at all especially once May gets his timing down.

Mayweather will make Alvarez look like an amateur for most of the fight but he will be able to come back from this and still be one of the better boxers out there.

This IMO is about the best fight we could ask for right now and everybody needs to appreciate what we have in the boxing ability in Mayweather. We only get to see him box a few more times and he really is a once in a generation fighter.
Posted by TruLsu
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
8934 posts
Posted on 5/31/13 at 10:02 am to
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Cotto took Money all 12rds and bloody his face up

Trout beat Cotto.

Cinnamon beat Trout.
Come on transitive property in boxing? really?

Styles make fights, and nobody out there has the technique and skillset of Mayweather to be able to beat him. If Canelo does beat him, it will be early and a knockout. We won't see may getting knocked out in the 10th or getting out pointed.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
93435 posts
Posted on 5/31/13 at 10:04 am to
What fighters were bigger than floyd the past 5yrs?
Posted by TruLsu
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
8934 posts
Posted on 5/31/13 at 10:10 am to
quote:

What fighters were bigger than floyd the past 5yrs?


Mosley was a half inch taller (negligible IMO)

Cotto was an inch shorter

Guerrero was the same height

Victor Ortiz was an inch taller

Marquez was an inch shorter

I can't find official fight weights on the night of the fight (still looking)

And I know what you are trying to say that Canelo is the biggest fighter Mayweather has faced. Mayweather is also a top 5 p4p fighter in history and Canelo isn't in the same class as him whether he would be bigger smaller stronger what not.

On paper Mayweather will run circles around him and make him look 22 years old.
Posted by TruLsu
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
8934 posts
Posted on 5/31/13 at 10:14 am to
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Mayweather came in weighing 150 pounds, only 3½ pounds over his weight the day before the fight, while Ortiz had rehydrated to 164


quote:

Floyd Mayweather Jr. (151) vs Miguel Cotto (154


quote:

Mayweather (40-0, 25 KO) weighed-in at 146 ,Mosley (46-5, 39 KO) came in slightly heavier at 147


quote:

Mayweather 146 lbs, Guerrero 147 lbs
This post was edited on 5/31/13 at 10:17 am
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
93435 posts
Posted on 5/31/13 at 10:15 am to



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