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re: Do you think Pete Rose has suffered enough for his sins and should be let back i

Posted on 4/23/13 at 2:34 pm to
Posted by Tiger inTampa
Tampa, FL
Member since Sep 2009
2171 posts
Posted on 4/23/13 at 2:34 pm to
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skewering him over betting on a game.

First:
It was WAY more than 1 game I read the report while stranded at the in-laws one Thanksgiving. It was a consistent spiraling pattern of gambling on baseball as well as many other things.
Second:
To save the sport, Kennesaw Mountain Landis made 1 irrevocable rule: If you bet on baseball you are done for life. You can whip your wife's arse on a daily basis. Eat handfuls of amphetamines from the bowl in the clubhouse. Snort Coke off the bat girl's arse. Get as many DUI as you want. Father an entire illegitimate team and never pay child support. Use pine tar, Vaseline, files etc. You can do all of this and be forgiven. The 1 thing, the only thing, was don't bet on baseball. Nah Pete was a GREAT player and I grew up watching him perform but, his ego was bigger than the game and consequently he thought he was too. In the end it cost him the only thing he cared about...The Game.
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
44079 posts
Posted on 4/23/13 at 2:42 pm to
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Speaking of, Shoeless Joe should be in the HOF. But, if you let him in, you have to let Rose in.


No, they are not the same thing, Rose bet on his team. Shoeless Joe intentionally lost the World Series.
Posted by DrVinnyBoombatz
Lubbock
Member since Oct 2011
3128 posts
Posted on 4/23/13 at 2:48 pm to
It was still a form of betting. The team bet on the Reds to win and then intentionally lost.
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
44079 posts
Posted on 4/23/13 at 2:53 pm to
Just because the both bet on the Reds to win, doesn't make it the same crime. Rose was a member of the Reds organization, while Jackson was a member of the White Sox.
Posted by DrVinnyBoombatz
Lubbock
Member since Oct 2011
3128 posts
Posted on 4/23/13 at 2:56 pm to
We are arguing semantics here. In the eyes of the MLB, both of these players were involved in a betting scandal. Ergo, these two players are going to be viewed in context together forever, even though they did not do the same exact thing.
Posted by 6nmylifetime
668 Neighbor to the Beast
Member since Nov 2012
598 posts
Posted on 4/23/13 at 4:22 pm to
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No, they are not the same thing, Rose bet on his team. Shoeless Joe intentionally lost the World Series.


Jackson played 8 games in the 1919 World Series. He led all batters with a .375 ave. and had 6 rbi's (only 2 others had more in the series).
Posted by TexanPete
Texas State University Alum
Member since Feb 2005
3023 posts
Posted on 4/23/13 at 5:26 pm to
Yes
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
153956 posts
Posted on 4/23/13 at 7:18 pm to
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4000 hits is unheard of

Ty Cobb says hi

Jigger Statz waves from a respectful distance

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