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re: Do you think a one loss SEC team can get in the title game ahead of

Posted on 2/28/12 at 12:14 am to
Posted by KillianRussell
New Orleans
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Posted on 2/28/12 at 12:14 am to
Fair or not put Arkansas in Alabama's postion last year and they do not get the midwest, east coast or california votes to leap Oklahoma State in the polls
Posted by 3rdandlong83
Alabama
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Posted on 2/28/12 at 12:15 am to
people outside the Southeast voted Alabama #2 when given the choice of 11-1 Bama, 11-1 Stanford, 11-1 OSU and 11-1 Boise. Including Stanford and Boise's coach, and the coach of Air Force (Colorado) voted OSU as low as #5. So your point that the South vote is what carried Bama is not entirely true.

Eta: Michigan's coach voted Bama #2 as well. It's not just a Southern thing apparently.
This post was edited on 2/28/12 at 12:16 am
Posted by KillianRussell
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 2/28/12 at 12:20 am to
Sucess begets sucess Alabama's rich football tradition puts them on prime time nationwide, a case of out of sight out mind type thing, again put Arkansas in Alabama's postion and they do not get the nod because voters do not see them cross country. Last year the whole country saw the Iron bowl, the game of the century, and Penn State/Bama
Posted by BayouBengals03
lsu14always
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Posted on 2/28/12 at 12:20 am to
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Fair or not put Arkansas in Alabama's postion last year and they do not get the midwest, east coast or california votes to leap Oklahoma State in the polls

Well, they wouldn't have had to leap Oklahoma State. OSU would have still been trying to leap them. However, I do agree that they would have absolutely gone ahead of Arkansas.

It was all name brand for Alabama last year. And it was all bullshite.
Posted by KillianRussell
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 2/28/12 at 12:23 am to
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So your point that the South vote is what carried Bama is not entirely true.


No where did I type that the southern vote put Bama in, infact my point was the non south will vote Bama, I am not sure the non south will vote Arkansas under the exact same set of circumstances
Posted by 3rdandlong83
Alabama
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 2/28/12 at 12:25 am to
Arkansas gets CBS and the SEC network same as Alabama. LSU/Arkansas was played on CBS the day before the Iron Bowl.

Fact is Alabama BEAT Arkansas so it never mattered. I think we're past the point of putting someone in the game on tradition.
Posted by KillianRussell
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2012
7319 posts
Posted on 2/28/12 at 12:29 am to
No one cares about Arkansas they were not the marquee televised CBS game nationwide other than black friday vs LSU....who cares if they are on the ocho with chitty annoucers, or jefferson pilot for that matter,
Posted by BayouBengals03
lsu14always
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 2/28/12 at 12:30 am to
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Fact is Alabama BEAT Arkansas so it never mattered.

LSU beat Arkansas. They also beat Alabama.

Apparently that didn't matter either.
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I think we're past the point of putting someone in the game on tradition.

No. We aren't.

If it was USC (sans probation) instead of Oklahoma State, you guys would have won the Sugar Bowl instead.
This post was edited on 2/28/12 at 12:31 am
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 2/28/12 at 12:30 am to
Alabama's schedule was laughable last season. Nobody except Alabama gets the treatment they did after losing to LSU.
This post was edited on 2/28/12 at 12:31 am
Posted by BayouBengals03
lsu14always
Member since Nov 2007
99999 posts
Posted on 2/28/12 at 12:37 am to
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Alabama's schedule was laughable last season. Nobody except Alabama gets the treatment they did after losing to LSU.

I've said it countless times... If LSU would have lost to Alabama on November 5th, there's no way in hell we'd have gotten a 2nd chance in January, even though the first game was in Tuscaloosa and we played a tougher schedule.

After all, if Alabama would have won, then the better team would have won the game. No big deal. Better luck next year LSU.

But everyone had been raving all season about how this Alabama defense was one of the best of all-time. How Trent Richardson was the best player on the best team in the country. And since 80% of analysts picked Alabama to win on November 5th, they needed to find a way to justify the loss. So all it took was them saying that Alabama outplayed LSU (which is true if you only care about 1st quarters). That Alabama is still the better team. That they'd win if they played again (and they did, but that's irrelevant).

Problem solved.
This post was edited on 2/28/12 at 12:41 am
Posted by KillianRussell
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2012
7319 posts
Posted on 2/28/12 at 12:43 am to
In a dead heat it is human nature coaches vote for guys they know. Of course Brady Hoke @ Michigan voted Nick Saban who was the HC @ State when Hoke was asst. under Carr. I thought Gundy being a lifer @ OSU hurt his chances vs Saban who has been the HC @ 4 programs
This post was edited on 2/28/12 at 12:44 am
Posted by Buckeye06
Member since Dec 2007
23132 posts
Posted on 2/28/12 at 8:39 am to
The SEC thing breaks ties only. When 2 teams are equal record wise, the SEC team right now will carry the day, as they should. But to say that a 1 loss SEC team gets in over an undefeated team from a major conference would absolutely destroy the regular season.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59112 posts
Posted on 2/28/12 at 10:54 am to
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The SEC thing breaks ties only. When 2 teams are equal record wise, the SEC team right now will carry the day

Exactly, i can't beleive people are even debating this. If undefeated Oklahoma State was ranked ahead of Alabama, then no quesion Florida State would be. Maybe not in all the computers or soemthing is their SOS is bad, but certainly in the regular polls and final BCS.
Posted by Unbiased Bama Fan
Member since Dec 2011
2950 posts
Posted on 2/28/12 at 10:59 am to
It's funny how SEC fans always seem to think that an undeserving school from a weaker conference like the ACC or Big East will go undefeated every year yet it's only happened once since 2002. Even in the weaker BCS conferences, it's extremely difficult to go undefeated. FSU will have a slip-up somewhere along the way. Boise likely will lose some games in the Big East as well.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59112 posts
Posted on 2/28/12 at 11:08 am to
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Even in the weaker BCS conferences, it's extremely difficult to go undefeated


its difficult in any conference
Posted by fastedLSU
BR
Member since Sep 2007
4477 posts
Posted on 2/28/12 at 11:23 am to
FSU will under preform as like normal and it wont be an issue.
Posted by Zamoro10
Member since Jul 2008
14743 posts
Posted on 2/28/12 at 11:44 am to
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The SEC thing breaks ties only.


And even then it's not a slam dunk. This thread is acting like Okie State was undefeated and Bama got in...Okie State lost to crap-arse Iowa State and still almost got in OVER Alabama. Any big name proven historical national stud like USC, Michigan, Notre Dame, Miami, Nebraska are all probably getting in over Alabama last year if they were in Okie State's one-loss shoes. Problem is you had historical duds in Okie State and Stanford.

SEC tards are in full force and effect here.
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