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Curious why 2004 was virtually a non issue?
Posted on 12/6/11 at 10:54 pm
Posted on 12/6/11 at 10:54 pm
Why was it that when Auburn was left out of the BCSNCG in 2004 after a perfect season there wasn't hardly even a wimper? Save a very few, none of the ESPN gurus were having fits, and little was made of the issue as memory serves me.
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Posted on 12/6/11 at 10:55 pm to Mike da Tigah
ESPN did not have the monopoly hold over the BCS and nearly all bowl games like it did then.
What has been done today is criminal.
What has been done today is criminal.
This post was edited on 12/6/11 at 10:57 pm
Posted on 12/6/11 at 10:56 pm to Mike da Tigah
partly because Texas and USC were preseason 1 and 2 weren't they?
Posted on 12/6/11 at 10:56 pm to Mike da Tigah
There was a fairly big deal made but auburn was not as big a market as OU and USC that year.
This post was edited on 12/6/11 at 10:58 pm
Posted on 12/6/11 at 10:56 pm to Mike da Tigah
Auburn did not appear as dominant (even to most SEC ans)as SC and OK that year if I remember correctly. It was also pre-SEC dominance in the BCS.
Posted on 12/6/11 at 10:56 pm to Mike da Tigah
1) SEC hadn't won 5 straight NCs
2) Auburn played the Citadel that year
3) USC and OU were objectively better that year. It sucked for Auburn, but shite happens
2) Auburn played the Citadel that year
3) USC and OU were objectively better that year. It sucked for Auburn, but shite happens
Posted on 12/6/11 at 10:57 pm to filmmaker45
2 reasons:
1) That year, USC and OU also went undefeated...and were both ranked higher than Auburn at the start of the year.
2) There was a sentiment that everyone wanted to see USC - OU play, since they were denied that the year before.
1) That year, USC and OU also went undefeated...and were both ranked higher than Auburn at the start of the year.
2) There was a sentiment that everyone wanted to see USC - OU play, since they were denied that the year before.
Posted on 12/6/11 at 10:57 pm to Mike da Tigah
Because OU and USC (unlike Auburn) are national brands. OSU isn't either. Bama is.
This post was edited on 12/6/11 at 10:59 pm
Posted on 12/6/11 at 10:57 pm to filmmaker45
quote:
What has been done today is criminal.
Posted on 12/6/11 at 10:58 pm to Mike da Tigah
Texas and USC were ranked no. 1 and no. 2 all season. Both remained undefeated in the regular season and Auburn's OOC schedule was considered unimpressive. They didn't have a signature win OOC (ala VT or Oregon, like LSU had in 2007 and this year). Auburn simply had no way to overtake the 1 & 2 teams.
Posted on 12/6/11 at 11:00 pm to tigerinridgeland
Texas didn't play for the MNC in 2004 brah
Posted on 12/6/11 at 11:04 pm to Hot Carl
quote:
1) SEC hadn't won 5 straight NCs
2) Auburn played the Citadel that year
3) USC and OU were objectively better that year. It sucked for Auburn, but shite happens
And you may be right Carl, but how do they justify their outrage over OSU being left out when they got beat by a NOBODY while Bama got beat in OT by the #1 team in the nation? It would seem that ESPN et al are all quite inconsistent in expressing their indignant outrage over the system.
Posted on 12/6/11 at 11:06 pm to Mike da Tigah
Hadn't USC beaten the crap out of Auburn the year before? I know they are two different years, but it's still in the back of the voters minds.
Posted on 12/6/11 at 11:07 pm to lsunutinno
quote:exactly. SEC had only won 40% (100% played in) championships up until then. I mean, why not give the number 2 spot to a team that lost to LSU the year before and replaced their heisman quarterback? crazy
It was also pre-SEC dominance in the BCS.
Posted on 12/6/11 at 11:10 pm to Mike da Tigah
Just for the record, it was USC and Oklahoma. Not Texas in 2004.
Who are "they" that are outraged? ESPN?
Seems to me ESPN has been pumping Alabama the last few weeks. Why I'm not sure. There is a great deal of backlash against this game.
No one wants to see a rematch when there is another deserving that won a conference that top to bottom is probably the best. Quantitatively, Alabama is pretty weak.
quote:
but how do they justify their outrage over OSU being left out when they got beat by a NOBODY while Bama got beat in OT by the #1 team in the nation?
Who are "they" that are outraged? ESPN?
quote:
It would seem that ESPN et al are all quite inconsistent in expressing their indignant outrage over the system.
Seems to me ESPN has been pumping Alabama the last few weeks. Why I'm not sure. There is a great deal of backlash against this game.
No one wants to see a rematch when there is another deserving that won a conference that top to bottom is probably the best. Quantitatively, Alabama is pretty weak.
Posted on 12/6/11 at 11:11 pm to Mike da Tigah
1: Urban Meyer was not here yet.
2. SEC were selfish and really didn't care to defend one another in fact the fact that Aubie got left out was a funny point for the rest of the SEC.
3. To stupid to realized that support of Auburn would be more beneficial to the SEC.
That's pretty much why, no noise was made. Urban Meyers when it looked like 1 and 2 were going to do battle again lobby long and hard and came off as an a-hole to the rest of the Big 10 and other football colleges.
HE also guarantee a victory over Ohio st and said the entire Big 10 was a joke and that the SEC is tougher then any conference out there by a factor of ten.
He proved it on the field.
2. SEC were selfish and really didn't care to defend one another in fact the fact that Aubie got left out was a funny point for the rest of the SEC.
3. To stupid to realized that support of Auburn would be more beneficial to the SEC.
That's pretty much why, no noise was made. Urban Meyers when it looked like 1 and 2 were going to do battle again lobby long and hard and came off as an a-hole to the rest of the Big 10 and other football colleges.
HE also guarantee a victory over Ohio st and said the entire Big 10 was a joke and that the SEC is tougher then any conference out there by a factor of ten.
He proved it on the field.
This post was edited on 12/6/11 at 11:14 pm
Posted on 12/6/11 at 11:14 pm to Hot Carl
Campbell, Cadillac, Ronnie Brown, Obomanu, Aromashodu (to name a few just on the offensive side of the ball) are all still on NFL rosters to this day. '03 Oklahoma, '06 Ohio St, '07 Ohio St, '08 Oklahoma were "objectively better" by most pundits' estimations. They found out differently when the SEC came to play in the title game.
Posted on 12/6/11 at 11:14 pm to John McClane
That season is what prompted Slive to attempt to present a plan for a plus 1 to the BCS conferences. They,led by big 10 commissioner Jim Delany, didnt even allow him to present the details of his plan before saying no.
Posted on 12/6/11 at 11:18 pm to Mike da Tigah
because members of the media did not lobby against the prevalent public opinion
Posted on 12/6/11 at 11:18 pm to Ghostfacedistiller
quote:
No one wants to see a rematch when there is another deserving that won a conference that top to bottom is probably the best. Quantitatively, Alabama is pretty weak.
I don't think it goes that far. I think it's quite simply stated that nobody wants to see a rematch PERIOD, and that's what this is really all about. USC played in the Pac 10 that didn't even have a conference championship game, using a parlay instead, and yet no issue was made of that when ridiculing OU for stumbling as the reason it should have been USC rather than OU in the NCG in 03.
Their reasoning changes with the wind, and they are quite inconsistent. It all depends on what argument they choose to embrace at the time. USC is s larger market than Auburn, as is Texas...
34 Million people > 25 million people > 5 million people
and
302 Million people who are not in Alabama > 5 Million people who are
Just my .02
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