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re: College Football Awards Winners 2012

Posted on 12/6/12 at 8:36 pm to
Posted by brewhan davey
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Posted on 12/6/12 at 8:36 pm to
Posted by hsfolk
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Posted on 12/6/12 at 8:37 pm to
Ryan Allen's 85 yard punt was a thing of beauty
Posted by msutiger
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Posted on 12/6/12 at 8:39 pm to
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Posted by brewhan davey
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Posted on 12/6/12 at 8:50 pm to
What stood out to me was that Te'o somehow received the Lombardi Award (award for best lineman)
Posted by hsfolk
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Posted on 12/6/12 at 9:08 pm to
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msutiger


Is Ryan Allen the best transfer in Tech history?
Posted by bags03
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Posted on 12/6/12 at 9:28 pm to
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He had better numbers than the other two guys


He got dominated by freakin Oregon State. He also had a lot more carries.
Posted by xenythx
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Posted on 12/6/12 at 9:29 pm to
I don't understand how the Tulane kicker won the award over Hopkins and Sturgis. The dude plays in a dome and I'm not sure how many pressure kicks he had to make for a 2-win team.
This post was edited on 12/6/12 at 9:30 pm
Posted by hsfolk
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Posted on 12/6/12 at 9:45 pm to
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I don't understand how the Tulane kicker won the award over Hopkins and Sturgis. The dude plays in a dome and I'm not sure how many pressure kicks he had to make for a 2-win team.


probably going 20 for 20 had something to do with it
Posted by HeadCoach
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Posted on 12/6/12 at 10:02 pm to
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He had better numbers than the other two guys



Ball:
332 1,730 5.2 67 21 9 65

Barner:
248 1624 6.5 80 21 19 232

Uhm so no. Not to mention Barner didn't play in the second half of 2/3 the games. Ball got it as a career award. I'm glad I didn't watch the award show. What a waste.
Posted by brewhan davey
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Posted on 12/6/12 at 10:22 pm to
Long of 57 didn't hurt either
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
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Posted on 12/7/12 at 6:34 am to
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Marqise Lee, USC



so he won b/c he plays for USC right?
Posted by EastcoastEER
South Carolina
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Posted on 12/7/12 at 8:07 am to
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StraightCashHomey21


Don't even bother. According to some on here Bailey wouldn't even be the #3 receiver at USC.

I guess having 5 or 6 more receptions and 180 or so more yards than the next guy is MUCH more important than having 54 more points than the other guy.
Posted by TigerBait2008
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Posted on 12/7/12 at 8:38 am to
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B. Jones & D. Milliner For the shutout.




FIFY
Posted by msutiger
Houston
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Posted on 12/7/12 at 8:45 am to
Rattay was a transfer


Quinton Patton is a damn good one too but he's JUCO so I don't know if that counts
Posted by TigerBait2008
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Posted on 12/7/12 at 8:47 am to
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Don't even bother. According to some on here Bailey wouldn't even be the #3 receiver at USC.

I guess having 5 or 6 more receptions and 180 or so more yards than the next guy is MUCH more important than having 54 more points than the other guy.



Austin was a badass too, surprised he wasn't up for anything..
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
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Posted on 12/7/12 at 8:49 am to
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What stood out to me was that Te'o somehow received the Lombardi Award (award for best lineman)


Dat Nguyen won the Lombardi in 1998.
Posted by EastcoastEER
South Carolina
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 12/7/12 at 9:01 am to
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Austin was a badass too, surprised he wasn't up for anything..


Austin was just a straight up freak - we will miss him more than anyone next year.

And him not getting any award-season love is way more egregious than everyone just handing the Biletnikoff to Lee like no one else was even worthy of consideration.
Posted by HeadCoach
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Posted on 12/7/12 at 9:11 am to
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just handing the Biletnikoff to Lee


Dude. Seriously?
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
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Posted on 12/7/12 at 9:14 am to
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And him not getting any award-season love is way more egregious than everyone just handing the Biletnikoff to Lee like no one else was even worthy of consideration


Let's look at the records of the teams of every award winner this year and their conference finish:

Maxwell: Te'O (12-0)
Walter Camp: Te'O (12-0)
Coach of the Year: Kelly (12-0)
Walker: Ball (8-5 = Won conference championship)
O'Brien: Manziel (10-2 = T2 SEC West)
Unitas: Klein (11-1 = Won conference)
Biletnikoff: Lee (7-5 = 2nd P12 South)
Mackey: Eifert (12-0)
Outland: Joeckel (10-2 = T2 SEC West)
Lombardi: Te'O (12-0)
Rimington: Jones (12-1 = Won conference championship)
Bednarik: Te'O (12-0)
Nagurski: Te'O (12-0)
Butkus: Te'O (12-0)
Thorpe: Banks (8-4 = 4th SEC West)
Groza: Santos (4-8 = last CUSA West)
Guy: Allen (9-3 = 3rd WAC)
Hendricks: Clowney (10-2 = 3rd SEC East)
Posted by EastcoastEER
South Carolina
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 12/7/12 at 9:25 am to
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Dude. Seriously?


How am I wrong? I never said Lee wasn't a deserving winner - I have simply tried to point out that based on the body of work you could have made a strong argument to give it to any of the 3 finalists. Based on the on-field results, it sure as hell wasn't "Lee and everyone else" like people have been saying for weeks.

quote:

Let's look at the records of the teams of every award winner this year and their conference finish:


Ummmm......ok? Got a point? You actually trying to argue that it is right and correct to only pick individual winners from great teams? Just because that is the way of the world doesn't make it right.


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