Irrelevant considering until recently they were making at least the conference finals every year, the organization was not positioning itself to clear cap room nor make a run for a top-tier FA. If you think Detroit is a hot FA destination, I don't know what to tell you.

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and anyway, you can get top talent without signing them as a FA. hell, the pistons' championship year was on the back of rasheed wallace,

Thanks for the insight. The Rasheed trade is a piss-poor example considering it was a total rape at the time. If the Pistons organization is waiting for that type of lightning to strike twice, they are going to keep on waiting.

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whot hey acquired at the deadlines for nothing (salary dump by atlanta...OH THE HORROR)

lulz. Yeah, it was a total salary dump by Atlanta...they received nothing in return. How did they land Josh Smith again?

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Posted by SlowFlowPro

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Posted on 5/30/11 at 9:52 am to brgfather129

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Irrelevant considering until recently they were making at least the conference finals every year,

how is it irrelevant?

you make a broad comment and then say your point is irrelevant. why make the comment?

how do you even KNOW they can't get a top-tier FA?

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The Rasheed trade is a piss-poor example considering it was a total rape at the time.

it wasn't a total rape. it was a salary/character dump. they happen so often in the NBA it is not funny

i don't get why you people think that these are rare events

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Yeah, it was a total salary dump by Atlanta...they received nothing in return. How did they land Josh Smith again?

they drafted him

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Posted by brgfather129

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Posted on 5/30/11 at 10:06 am to SlowFlowPro

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how is it irrelevant?

It is irrelevant because your point is based upon faulty logic. The Pistons have not tried to sign a "top-tier FA" because it was never an option from 2001-2008. I'll put it this way...before that time, Chris Webber turned them down, they lost Grant Hill and Allan Houston, and they turned their recent cap room into Ben Gordon and Charlie Villanueva. Take a look at that roster minus Rip, Tayshaun, and Stuckey...which is what it would take to even have space to make a run at a guy, and let me know who is going to line-up to play there?

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it wasn't a total rape.

Come on, yes it was.

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i don't get why you people think that these are rare events

Never said they were. Your words, not mine.

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they drafted him

Thanks for being intentionally obtuse. Where did the pick come from?

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Posted by SlowFlowPro

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Posted on 5/30/11 at 10:09 am to brgfather129

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they lost Grant Hill

dude. seriously?

they lost grant hill b/c their doctors fricked him by lying to him about the severity of his injury to keep him playing in the playoffs

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Come on, yes it was.

it was a salary dump. nothing more

he was a FA and wasn't re-signing in ATL anyway, and they had just acquired him in a deal shedding salary

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Posted by brgfather129

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Posted on 5/30/11 at 10:34 am to SlowFlowPro

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dude. seriously?

Yeah dude

, seriously.

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they lost grant hill b/c their doctors fricked him by lying to him about the severity of his injury to keep him playing in the playoffs

Why?...because that story came out a month ago? Congratulations on being up on current events...however, he left for money and a better situation in Orlando, the rest is revisionist history. I'll wait for you to quote the place in the article where Hill explicitly states that's the reason why he left Detroit.

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it was a salary dump. nothing more

...and when Atlanta dumped his salary, what did they get in return? I asked the question and you conveniently didn't answer it.

There is a difference between "dumping salary" and "dumping salary, including a draft pick, and getting nothing in return". Atlanta got something...the deal, as presented in the OP, yields Detroit nothing. Not difficult to grasp.

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Posted by brgfather129

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Posted on 5/30/11 at 10:42 am to SlowFlowPro

Not to mention, it is an absolutely ludicrous position that Hill left Detroit because he was getting screwed on his ankle injury...for an organization that immediately, get this, started screwing him on the same injury. If Hill were that adamant that he shouldn't be playing, don't you think he should have gone to an organization on the same page?

GH: "Hey, I'm really getting bent-over on this injury...I shouldn't be playing."

OM: "Nah, we think you're good. You're going to be ready for game 1, right? Sign here."

Dude was on the floor Game 1 with Orlando. Hill had the public perception of being soft, tried to play through it, and got burned.

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