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re: Can a pitcher get a loss by not giving up any

Posted on 6/12/12 at 7:50 am to
Posted by OnTheBrink
TN
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 6/12/12 at 7:50 am to
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Brandon Morrow threw 9 pitches and got the L tonight


Did MLB change the rule on this?

In the bottom of the 1st, Toronto scored a run to offset the run Morrow gave up, so Beck should have got the loss correct? I know 2 years ago this is how it was done but I think they did something to the rule last year.
Posted by Nof603
Houston
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 6/12/12 at 8:12 am to
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but there are guys in the Majors that have thrown a perfect game and lost


I'm pretty sure that's not possible. A perfect game means the pitcher allowed 0 batters to reach first base.. this means no walks, errors, or hits. I don't see how a pitcher can possibly get a loss while allowing no one to get on base.
Posted by Master of Sinanju
Member since Feb 2012
12170 posts
Posted on 6/12/12 at 8:37 am to
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Did MLB change the rule on this?

In the bottom of the 1st, Toronto scored a run to offset the run Morrow gave up, so Beck should have got the loss correct? I know 2 years ago this is how it was done but I think they did something to the rule last year.


Washington scored two runs in the first inning. Since Morrow was charged with the go-ahead run, and Toronto never tied or took the lead to get him off the hook, he got the loss.
Posted by Master of Sinanju
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 6/12/12 at 8:39 am to
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I'm pretty sure that's not possible.


It's not possible.
Posted by OnTheBrink
TN
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 6/12/12 at 9:13 am to
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Since Morrow was charged with the go-ahead run, and Toronto never tied or took the lead to get him off the hook, he got the loss.


In the past, 2 years ago, was the rule not different?

I understand how it is now, I could swear it was not like that 2 years ago. In this game, Toronto scored 3, therefore passing the run that Morrow gave up and taking him off the hook. Maybe I am going crazy, I just thought I remembered games being scored differently.
Posted by Master of Sinanju
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 6/12/12 at 9:22 am to


No, that's the way it has always been. The pitcher who gives up the go-ahead run always takes the loss unless his team ties or goes ahead themselves.

Pitcher A gives up one run. Pitcher B relieves him and gives up 10 runs. Their team rallies for 10 runs of their own and lose 11-10. Pitcher A takes the loss.
Posted by OnTheBrink
TN
Member since Mar 2012
5428 posts
Posted on 6/12/12 at 9:57 am to
I guess I am just going crazy then. Thanks for the responses!

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Pitcher A gives up one run. Pitcher B relieves him and gives up 10 runs. Their team rallies for 10 runs of their own and lose 11-10. Pitcher A takes the loss


Pretty shitty IMO. Same for Morrow last night.
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
45102 posts
Posted on 6/12/12 at 10:54 am to
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You will have to look it up, but there are guys in the Majors that have thrown a perfect game and lost I'm pretty sure.


You are thinking of the Harvey Haddix that I linked earlier, technically it wasn't a perfect game, but he does have the MLB record for the most consecutive batter retired. A record that will never be broken.
This post was edited on 6/12/12 at 10:59 am
Posted by Palm Beach Tiger
Orlando, Florida
Member since Jan 2007
30109 posts
Posted on 6/12/12 at 10:59 am to
Yeah, the guy I saw that did it went into extra innings. The rule used to be if you threw 9 perfect innings it was a perfect game. Some guy for Pittsburg went 12 perfect innings and then lost in the 13th 3 to 0. Now it is impossible.
Posted by Froman
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2007
38922 posts
Posted on 6/12/12 at 12:35 pm to
frick his teammates for getting 12 hits and never scoring a fricking run.
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