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re: Brees vs Brady

Posted on 8/13/10 at 6:59 pm to
Posted by Walt OReilly
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Posted on 8/13/10 at 6:59 pm to
Brady
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112624 posts
Posted on 8/14/10 at 12:09 am to
quote:

Disagree. Manning may be the best EVER


But the question is who would you take right now.

Joe Montana may be the GOAT, but I'd take Brees over montana right NOW.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112624 posts
Posted on 8/14/10 at 12:19 am to
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No, I just have an opinion. Right now Id take Aaron Rodgers over him. More upside at this time


So, 1 game this season, you're taking Rodgers over manning?

Jesus.
Posted by swagsurfin7
Founder of the Alex Morgan Fan Club
Member since Dec 2009
7294 posts
Posted on 8/14/10 at 12:25 am to
quote:

do you really think an average QB couldn't succeed with the fantastic WR's, TE's, and Offensive Line that the Saints have put together?


Those "fantastic WRs" that the Saints have that you speak of have made how many Pro Bowls compared to Manning and Brady??? STFU with that
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
76373 posts
Posted on 8/14/10 at 12:57 am to
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Those "fantastic WRs" that the Saints have that you speak of have made how many Pro Bowls compared to Manning and Brady??? STFU with that


Pro Bowls are for suckers. If you really rate people based off Pro Bowls, I don't care about your opinion
Posted by swagsurfin7
Founder of the Alex Morgan Fan Club
Member since Dec 2009
7294 posts
Posted on 8/14/10 at 1:03 am to
I dont... I instatly regret saying that bc Im the same way.
but idk how you think our skill players are fantastic. They are average at best.. There's only one or two of these guys that could go anywhere else and be the #1 guy
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
76373 posts
Posted on 8/14/10 at 1:05 am to
I think Colston is fantastic, and Shockey when healthy is still a top 10 tight end. I'm not saying they're the best out there, but I think if Brees went down, they'd be able to go a couple of games above .500.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112624 posts
Posted on 8/14/10 at 1:06 am to
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There's only one or two of these guys that could go anywhere else and be the #1 guy


Colston
Shockey
Pierre Thomas
Bush

They could all start on other teams and be the #1 guy at there respective positions.
Posted by swagsurfin7
Founder of the Alex Morgan Fan Club
Member since Dec 2009
7294 posts
Posted on 8/14/10 at 1:41 am to
Out of our receivers I think Colston is the only one that could be a true #1.. I wasn't talking about our RBs... I think Both PT and Reggie could be starters... I meant our WRs

Idk about a few games over .500, did u see Brunell in tht last game
Posted by bomber77
Member since Aug 2008
14783 posts
Posted on 8/14/10 at 8:49 am to
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So, 1 game this season, you're taking Rodgers over manning?


1 game wtf does that even mean?

quote:

shel311


No Lebron thread for you to jump into right now?
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
216133 posts
Posted on 8/14/10 at 8:52 am to
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No Lebron thread for you to jump into right now?




He probably thinks Don Nelson is better than Johnny U.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
76373 posts
Posted on 8/14/10 at 11:04 am to
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Idk about a few games over .500, did u see Brunell in tht last game


I lol'd, but Brunell wasn't even close to being an average QB last year. The guy has a wet noodle for an arm, and his accuracy was dwindling. I don't know why the media always thinks older QB's suddenly become Chad Pennington in their sleep.
Posted by TT9
Seychelles
Member since Sep 2008
90501 posts
Posted on 8/14/10 at 11:10 am to
Brady,until recently he never had the talent offensivly that Manning had....
Posted by STLSU
Hallandale Beach, FL
Member since Dec 2004
14830 posts
Posted on 8/14/10 at 11:52 am to
brees
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112624 posts
Posted on 8/14/10 at 11:14 pm to
quote:

1 game wtf does that even mean?


Really? You don't know what that means? LOLZ

The poll read which QB would you take "right now"

Not which would you take for the foreseeable future.

So, you're basically saying if you had an entire roster filled out except your starting QB, you'd take Rodgers over Manning RIGHT NOW.

That doesn't say much for your football IQ bro. Not trying to be an arse, but it's makes you look silly to think that.

quote:

No Lebron thread for you to jump into right now?


Cause you never jump in Lebron threads.
Posted by OBUDan
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
40723 posts
Posted on 8/14/10 at 11:40 pm to
There's no way anyone should say, "I take this guy and it's not even close..."

Yes, it is fricking close.

Brees/Manning/Brady are the unholy triumverate at QB right now, with Aaron Rodgers being at the top of that next tier (IMO).

Firstly, I don't believe in clutch, so I think that notion is silly. Plus, placing the entirety of a win/loss upon one player (even if it is the QB).

Secondly, of the three, for the majority of their careers, Manning is the only one who had supreme WR talent to work with. Now, are Harrison and Wayne as good without Manning? That's the unanswerable question.

But it's obvious that the guys Brady/Brees have thrown to are less than spectacular (I'm talking Pre-Moss for Brady and I think it remains to be seen on Colston).
Posted by swagsurfin7
Founder of the Alex Morgan Fan Club
Member since Dec 2009
7294 posts
Posted on 8/15/10 at 12:56 am to
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for the majority of their careers, Manning is the only one who had supreme WR talent to work with.


This... not to mention Dallas Clark
Posted by OBUDan
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
40723 posts
Posted on 8/15/10 at 1:10 am to
quote:

This... not to mention Dallas Clark



Yeah. And that's partially how the organization is structured. They've been hell bent on surrounding Peyton with top offensive talent.

Pats more interested in getting defensive talent and making the other parts work on offense.

Saints kind of a blend.
Posted by BenDover
Member since Jul 2010
5548 posts
Posted on 8/15/10 at 1:46 am to
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Pats more interested in getting defensive talent and making the other parts work on offense.



Yeah, like acquiring Randy Moss.
Posted by swagsurfin7
Founder of the Alex Morgan Fan Club
Member since Dec 2009
7294 posts
Posted on 8/15/10 at 1:51 am to
quote:

Yeah, like acquiring Randy Moss.


and Wes Welker...

The thing with the Saints is SP designed that offense specifically for Drew... he took the things he's most successful with and built around them. I dont think that the average backup could come in and take us to the playoffs. You saw Brady go down and the Pats go 11-5 without him.. which is why I think that hes out of the picture... Manning may be as equal as Brees right now as the best even though he's surrounded by the most talent
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