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re: Brady Quinn jumps Tim Tebow for Broncos 2nd string QB
Posted on 8/22/11 at 11:15 am to UFownstSECsince1950
Posted on 8/22/11 at 11:15 am to UFownstSECsince1950
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I'll be waiting......
What we will all be waiting for is you to develop a brain.
Tebow's accuracy has NEVER been good. Florida had some great players which Tebow benefited from. Did he occasionally make a good throw? Yep but most of the time they were wide open or he would just tuck the ball and run.
Nothing about Tebow's game translates to the NFL.
HE is nowhere near accurate enough. He was a GREAT college quarterback. He is not the first great college players who didn't have the skills to make it in the NFL.
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Posted on 8/22/11 at 12:06 pm to UFownstSECsince1950
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not sure, and don't have the stats.....but Tebow was one of the most accurate long ball passers in college football (during his 3 years starting).
u sure u saw tebow play in college?
Posted on 8/22/11 at 12:43 pm to NoBoBullDog
I never said he was overrated or that I hate the guy. That is just the conclusion u come to when u see people posting that his game doesn't transition into the nfl well. To say that he is the greatest quarterback in the history of college football is ignorant. Saying he was the most successful college qb ever is a fair argument
Posted on 8/22/11 at 2:03 pm to sgallo3
Oh WOW! I didnt realize i was in the the presence of such LSU Elitists!.....No need for insults....I would love to hear your opinion on the greatest quarterback in CFB....
I think it would be BEST though to say that IGNORANCE is trashing a man like Tebow or anyone else who hasn't gotten a chance to prove himself....you know before all the stats are in : ) so why don't you reserve judgement until a) he fails miserably b) simply fades away into 3rd string mediocrity or c) He proves to be successful.....
I think it would be BEST though to say that IGNORANCE is trashing a man like Tebow or anyone else who hasn't gotten a chance to prove himself....you know before all the stats are in : ) so why don't you reserve judgement until a) he fails miserably b) simply fades away into 3rd string mediocrity or c) He proves to be successful.....
Posted on 8/22/11 at 2:18 pm to sgallo3
"gimmick quarterback"?? 
aren't you better than that? how soon lsu fans forget....Tebow basically dominated yall for all 4 years. Yes yall won his sophomore year, but it wasn't cause your D shut him down....it was cause our D had 9 freshman starters and we couldn't stop JH on 4th down. Please don't post his stats from his senior year as that was his first game back after the concusssion. You still couldn't beat a concussed/gimmicky qb led team.
Silly LSU fans with short-term memory loss.......I know some of yall remember/fear this gimmicky guy LINK
aren't you better than that? how soon lsu fans forget....Tebow basically dominated yall for all 4 years. Yes yall won his sophomore year, but it wasn't cause your D shut him down....it was cause our D had 9 freshman starters and we couldn't stop JH on 4th down. Please don't post his stats from his senior year as that was his first game back after the concusssion. You still couldn't beat a concussed/gimmicky qb led team.
Silly LSU fans with short-term memory loss.......I know some of yall remember/fear this gimmicky guy LINK
Posted on 8/22/11 at 2:20 pm to flbeachtiger
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ebow's accuracy has NEVER been good.
LINK
I'll just let this page do the talking for me. Dude was one of the most accurate passers during his time.....this includes deep passes (the stats are out there somewhere). Again, his college career has absolutely nothing to do with his NFL career (at least pertaining to this discussion).
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u sure u saw tebow play in college?
I'm sure this quote was meant for you......
This post was edited on 8/22/11 at 2:22 pm
Posted on 8/22/11 at 2:34 pm to UFownstSECsince1950
First off...those stats don't show how many screen/dump passes he threw. Secondly, the jump pass is illegal. you can't have offensive linemen moving forward during a pass play. thirdly, you guys may be the biggest homers this board has ever seen. It seems only Flor fans think he was accurate. Watch his arm motion. Every throw is a different motion. Don't make this a LSU hate thing.
Posted on 8/22/11 at 2:38 pm to The Ramp
quote:do you know how many he threw?
First off...those stats don't show how many screen/dump passes he threw
quote:LINK show me offensive linemen moving forward
econdly, the jump pass is illegal. you can't have offensive linemen moving forward during a pass play
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thirdly, you guys may be the biggest homers this board has ever seen. It seems only Flor fans think he was accurate.
again, dude was one of the most accurate qbs in the country during his time. Stats don't lie. There are stats out there showing his accuracy beyond 15 yard passes (through the air) and he was right at the top of the list. Posted on 8/22/11 at 2:43 pm to UFownstSECsince1950
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Tebow basically dominated yall for all 4 years.
senior year vs LSU: 134 YDS, 1 TD, 1 INT
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. Please don't post his stats from his senior year as that was his first game back after the concusssion.
excuse much?
Junior year vs LSU: 210 YDS, 2 TD
Soph year vs LSU:
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Yes yall won his sophomore year, but it wasn't cause your D shut him down....it was cause our D had 9 freshman starters and we couldn't stop JH on 4th down
still excusing?
freshman year vs LSU: 36 yards 2 tds
hardly 4 years of dominance
Posted on 8/22/11 at 2:48 pm to UFownstSECsince1950
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do you know how many he threw?
prolly 50%
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show me offensive linemen moving forward
u realize thats not lsu
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dude was one of the most accurate qbs in the country during his time
ur opinion only.
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Stats don't lie
yes they do.
Posted on 8/22/11 at 2:48 pm to The Ramp
looks like 4 years of domination to me
even though he was playing with a concussion, he still was responsible for the only TD in the game against yall in 2009.....domination
2008 was a complete blowout.....
2007, in what his 5th start ever, in TS, with the shittiest/most inexperienced Florida defense in 20+ years, he single-handedly almost beat the MNC winning team, lol.
2006, didn't even start.....and still was responsible for every Florida TD that game. Threw for 2 TDs and ran for 1 on a 4th down conversion to help propel UF to the NC that year.
yep, DOMINATION!!!!
even though he was playing with a concussion, he still was responsible for the only TD in the game against yall in 2009.....domination
2008 was a complete blowout.....
2007, in what his 5th start ever, in TS, with the shittiest/most inexperienced Florida defense in 20+ years, he single-handedly almost beat the MNC winning team, lol.
2006, didn't even start.....and still was responsible for every Florida TD that game. Threw for 2 TDs and ran for 1 on a 4th down conversion to help propel UF to the NC that year.
yep, DOMINATION!!!!
Posted on 8/22/11 at 2:51 pm to The Ramp
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prolly 50%
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u realize thats not lsu
you only said the "jump pass was illegal". show me offensive linemen moving forward "illegally" against lsu
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ur opinion only
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yes they do.
I clearly can't argue against this sound logic
Posted on 8/22/11 at 2:51 pm to UFownstSECsince1950
he was good but he wasn't the passing threat u make him out to be. i'm done. u're a complete homer. good luck finding anyone outside of gainesville thinking he was a great passer.
Posted on 8/22/11 at 2:56 pm to The Ramp
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e wasn't the passing threat u make him out to be
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good luck finding anyone outside of gainesville thinking he was a great passer.
I'll post again very clearly so you might comprehend.
the dude threw almost 1,000 times while @ UF
he completed over 66% of his passes with a 170.8 career qb rating
he was responsible for 145 TDS (and over 12,000 yards).....while throwing a grand total of 16 interceptions
yep, I'm just a homer, the stats lie, Tebow was overrated, just a gimmicky qb in a gimmick offense.....anything else I'm missing? oh, and he only dumped the ball of for short screens every time
Posted on 8/22/11 at 3:01 pm to UFownstSECsince1950
I don't know how accurate this is....but
looks pretty overrated and gimmicky to me. flbeachtiger was right.....Tebow's accuracy was never very good
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Pass Completion Percentage
2007 SEC 66.9 (1st)
2008 SEC 64.4 (1st)
2009 NCAA 67.8 (7th)
2009 SEC 67.8 (1st)
Career NCAA* 66.4 (12th)
Career SEC* 66.4 (1st)
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Passing Efficiency Rating
2007 NCAA 172.5 (2nd)
2007 SEC 172.5 (1st)
2008 NCAA 172.4 (4th)
2008 SEC 172.4 (1st)
2009 NCAA 164.2 (1st)
2009 SEC 164.2 (1st)
Career NCAA* 170.8 (2nd)
Career SEC* 170.8 (1st)
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Passing Yards Per Attempt
2007 NCAA 9.4 (1st)
2007 SEC 9.4 (1st)
2008 NCAA 9.2 (4th)
2008 SEC 9.2 (1st)
2009 NCAA 9.2 (4th)
2009 SEC 9.2 (1st)
Career NCAA* 9.3 (3rd)
Career SEC* 9.3 (1st)
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Adjusted Passing Yards Per Attempt
2007 NCAA 10.4 (1st)
2007 SEC 10.4 (1st)
2008 NCAA 10.6 (2nd)
2008 SEC 10.6 (1st)
2009 NCAA 9.8 (1st)
2009 SEC 9.8 (1st)
Career NCAA* 10.4 (3rd)
Career SEC* 10.4 (1st)
looks pretty overrated and gimmicky to me. flbeachtiger was right.....Tebow's accuracy was never very good
This post was edited on 8/22/11 at 3:02 pm
Posted on 8/22/11 at 3:33 pm to UFownstSECsince1950
still not too late in the preseason to convert tebow to fullback... the way it's going.. he'll be in the arena football league by 2013.
This post was edited on 8/22/11 at 3:34 pm
Posted on 8/22/11 at 3:35 pm to UFownstSECsince1950
quote:college accuracy. swings, bombs, screens....not many nfl passes...(IE outs, Posts, playaction, curls, backshoulder, comebacks...etc)
quote:
Pass Completion Percentage
2007 SEC 66.9 (1st)
2008 SEC 64.4 (1st)
2009 NCAA 67.8 (7th)
2009 SEC 67.8 (1st)
Career NCAA* 66.4 (12th)
Career SEC* 66.4 (1st)
quote:
Passing Efficiency Rating
2007 NCAA 172.5 (2nd)
2007 SEC 172.5 (1st)
2008 NCAA 172.4 (4th)
2008 SEC 172.4 (1st)
2009 NCAA 164.2 (1st)
2009 SEC 164.2 (1st)
Career NCAA* 170.8 (2nd)
Career SEC* 170.8 (1st)
quote:
Passing Yards Per Attempt
2007 NCAA 9.4 (1st)
2007 SEC 9.4 (1st)
2008 NCAA 9.2 (4th)
2008 SEC 9.2 (1st)
2009 NCAA 9.2 (4th)
2009 SEC 9.2 (1st)
Career NCAA* 9.3 (3rd)
Career SEC* 9.3 (1st)
quote:
Adjusted Passing Yards Per Attempt
2007 NCAA 10.4 (1st)
2007 SEC 10.4 (1st)
2008 NCAA 10.6 (2nd)
2008 SEC 10.6 (1st)
2009 NCAA 9.8 (1st)
2009 SEC 9.8 (1st)
Career NCAA* 10.4 (3rd)
Career SEC* 10.4 (1st)
Posted on 8/22/11 at 3:36 pm to DirklasDaDirk
A lot of rumors right now that Tebow will be cut or traded by Labor Day because he's supposed to receive a $6.25 million bonus if he's still on the roster by September 2nd.
Posted on 8/22/11 at 4:14 pm to RammerJammerBammer
I doubt they understand this and what it means. To them throwing a hb dump off or hail mary is the same as hitting a guy 15 yards down field on a slant route. Not to mention a majority of tebows passes were to the primary receiver and he never learned to read a defense. I still think he can learn to do those things because he is a workaholic but he needs to correct his mechanics or he will be inaccurate and get n trouble because of his slow release
Posted on 8/23/11 at 8:01 am to UFownstSECsince1950
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I'm sure (you being an LSU fan and all), you can remember pretty vividly Tebow's "coming out party" his freshman year in which he threw a 50+ yard bomb to Louis Murphy against yall
dont be a dick with the cheap shot. i think if you werent looking through gator eyes you would see that the point the dude was making was that in that system, most of his success throwing deep was due to misdirection PA passes bc of the system of offense.
and for the record, that long TD was to a WIDE THE F OPEN murphy off of that same PA fake run out of the gun play. Genius call and genuis play, but MOST successful bc of the talent around him and his running abilities. I too want him to succeed but i doubt he ever will playing in a pro style offensive atmosphere. i hope im wrong but if the past says anything about the future- he wont be near as dominant a player.
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