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re: Bracketology - UPDATED 3/15
Posted on 2/19/09 at 1:18 am to PiscesTiger
Posted on 2/19/09 at 1:18 am to PiscesTiger
You are a braver and stronger person than I.
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Posted on 2/19/09 at 1:23 am to BraveTiger225
No...just been doing brackets since I was a kid.
The first time I did them, I was up in Knoxville in March of '89 to celebrate my birthday at the SEC tournament (a gift from mom and dad and an arse whoppin to LSU from the homecourt Vols).
I was sitting up in the higher level and some old douchebag was curious to see a young boy doing brackets. It just so happened that I projected Seton Hall and Michigan to play in the c'ship game - and they did! While I was filling them out, however, I had Seton Hall paired up against Mizzou and beating them in some round. They guy, who by the way was eerily similar to Mr. Rogers in clothing, accent, and demeanor, told me that no way does Seton Hall get past Missouri. Well...they did that for real also.
I'm not saying I am any good at this...just saying that it's been a fun hobby of mine for 20 years. My dad and have always, together, done our brackets as Selection Sunday comes on. It's one of the most fun times in sports. Is there anything more tense than Selection Sunday?
The first time I did them, I was up in Knoxville in March of '89 to celebrate my birthday at the SEC tournament (a gift from mom and dad and an arse whoppin to LSU from the homecourt Vols).
I was sitting up in the higher level and some old douchebag was curious to see a young boy doing brackets. It just so happened that I projected Seton Hall and Michigan to play in the c'ship game - and they did! While I was filling them out, however, I had Seton Hall paired up against Mizzou and beating them in some round. They guy, who by the way was eerily similar to Mr. Rogers in clothing, accent, and demeanor, told me that no way does Seton Hall get past Missouri. Well...they did that for real also.
I'm not saying I am any good at this...just saying that it's been a fun hobby of mine for 20 years. My dad and have always, together, done our brackets as Selection Sunday comes on. It's one of the most fun times in sports. Is there anything more tense than Selection Sunday?
Posted on 2/19/09 at 1:28 am to PiscesTiger
I've never done true bracket projections, but I do sit and analyze the hell out of them once they come out. It is tense, even when your team isn't stuck in the bubble.
I love the game of college basketball, and could watch any two teams play (well almost). One day, I want to go to MSG for the Big East tourney, especially now that all 16 teams are entered. 5 straight days of watching hoops at the Garden? Heaven. It's the basketball equivalent of watching the SEC baseball tourney in Hoover. Done it twice and going again this year. I buy a scorebook, go in the morning and sit there all day.
Will be fun to see how much I actually know about the process when I put them together on Sunday.
I love the game of college basketball, and could watch any two teams play (well almost). One day, I want to go to MSG for the Big East tourney, especially now that all 16 teams are entered. 5 straight days of watching hoops at the Garden? Heaven. It's the basketball equivalent of watching the SEC baseball tourney in Hoover. Done it twice and going again this year. I buy a scorebook, go in the morning and sit there all day.
Will be fun to see how much I actually know about the process when I put them together on Sunday.
Posted on 2/19/09 at 1:43 am to BraveTiger225
I totally envy you for that. I would love to go to the Big East tourney. Talk about game after game of quality hoops.
I went to the Garden in '01 for the NIT Final4. I was staying across the street from MSG and Penn Station at the Hotel Pennsylvania. My friend and I just needed something to do that night (other than girls from Rutgers
) and we got great courtside seats and watched Bama beat Detroit and Memphis beat Tulsa. As fun as that was, it's probably nowhere near the BET.
This year is going to REALLY be a good one...tons and tons of NBA drool talent: Harangody, Thabeet, Williams, Clark, Hazell, Fields, Blair, McNeal, Onuaka, Dar Tucker, Cunninham, Butler...wow. What a great conference.
I didn't know SIXTEEN (all) teams were invited this year. Did I understand you right?
I went to the Garden in '01 for the NIT Final4. I was staying across the street from MSG and Penn Station at the Hotel Pennsylvania. My friend and I just needed something to do that night (other than girls from Rutgers
) and we got great courtside seats and watched Bama beat Detroit and Memphis beat Tulsa. As fun as that was, it's probably nowhere near the BET. This year is going to REALLY be a good one...tons and tons of NBA drool talent: Harangody, Thabeet, Williams, Clark, Hazell, Fields, Blair, McNeal, Onuaka, Dar Tucker, Cunninham, Butler...wow. What a great conference.
I didn't know SIXTEEN (all) teams were invited this year. Did I understand you right?
This post was edited on 2/19/09 at 11:21 pm
Posted on 2/19/09 at 1:46 am to PiscesTiger
That is correct. The bracket looks like this:
Tuesday:
9 v 16
12 v 13
11 v 14
10 v 15
Wednesday:
9/16 v 8
12/13 v 5
11/14 v 6
10/15 v 7
Thursday:
9/16/8 v 1
12/13/5 v 4
11/14/6 v 3
10/15/7 v 2
Friday: Semis
Saturday: Championship
Tuesday:
9 v 16
12 v 13
11 v 14
10 v 15
Wednesday:
9/16 v 8
12/13 v 5
11/14 v 6
10/15 v 7
Thursday:
9/16/8 v 1
12/13/5 v 4
11/14/6 v 3
10/15/7 v 2
Friday: Semis
Saturday: Championship
Posted on 2/19/09 at 1:54 am to BraveTiger225
DAYUM! They start on Tuesday this time...
Posted on 2/19/09 at 11:12 pm to PiscesTiger
Xavier falls to Charlotte.
Damn, we should have beaten those guys!
My belief for LSU is that we win out from this point on...nothing stops us.
Damn, we should have beaten those guys!
My belief for LSU is that we win out from this point on...nothing stops us.
Posted on 2/19/09 at 11:14 pm to PiscesTiger
God we could use a rest though, lol. Although, picking against the fatigued team in the postseason never seems to work out.
St. Mary's deadlocked at the break and USC coming down to the wire at home against Wazzu. Breakdown coming after the games are done.
St. Mary's deadlocked at the break and USC coming down to the wire at home against Wazzu. Breakdown coming after the games are done.
Posted on 2/20/09 at 1:05 am to BraveTiger225
Not too much to break down, but here are the notes from Thursday:
GONZAGA
Clinched a share of the WCC title. Own the tiebreaker over St. Mary's and Portland, so the Bulldogs clinch the top seed in the WCC tourney and a bye in the semifinal round.
MICHIGAN/MINNESOTA
Michigan is working their way back into the discussion. Still a bit out. Minnesota, on the other hand, has worked their way into the bubble. These two could end up swapping spots before it's all over...and they get to play again at Minnesota in the final game of the season on March 9.
XAVIER
Their first bad loss of the year, but I guess even good teams get one. At Charlotte (4-7 in the A-10) is horrible. This team has hit the skids a bit lately, but Sean Miller is a good coach and will get them out of it. Not in any danger, just slipping in seed down to the 5 range. In danger of losing out on the A-10 regular-season title, though, with Dayton and Temple right there.
ST. MARY'S
Pulled it out against San Diego, and they are staying in the race, but I just still don't know if buy them getting an at-large right now. 8-4 in the conference isn't amazing, even with wins over Providence, K-State and San Diego State. They also have a loss to UTEP. If they beat Utah State in the BracketBuster, maybe my faith will be restored. Both schools need that one, especially after Utah State dropped one to Boise in conference.
USC
Won a tight one at home against Washington State, but it doesn't get them back in the field, yet. Still some work to be done for the Trojans. Big one at home against Washington on Saturday, and then at Cal next week before closing with the Oregon schools. Gonna be tight for USC. I think they will need a couple of Pac-10 tourney wins to seal the deal, in the end.
GONZAGA
Clinched a share of the WCC title. Own the tiebreaker over St. Mary's and Portland, so the Bulldogs clinch the top seed in the WCC tourney and a bye in the semifinal round.
MICHIGAN/MINNESOTA
Michigan is working their way back into the discussion. Still a bit out. Minnesota, on the other hand, has worked their way into the bubble. These two could end up swapping spots before it's all over...and they get to play again at Minnesota in the final game of the season on March 9.
XAVIER
Their first bad loss of the year, but I guess even good teams get one. At Charlotte (4-7 in the A-10) is horrible. This team has hit the skids a bit lately, but Sean Miller is a good coach and will get them out of it. Not in any danger, just slipping in seed down to the 5 range. In danger of losing out on the A-10 regular-season title, though, with Dayton and Temple right there.
ST. MARY'S
Pulled it out against San Diego, and they are staying in the race, but I just still don't know if buy them getting an at-large right now. 8-4 in the conference isn't amazing, even with wins over Providence, K-State and San Diego State. They also have a loss to UTEP. If they beat Utah State in the BracketBuster, maybe my faith will be restored. Both schools need that one, especially after Utah State dropped one to Boise in conference.
USC
Won a tight one at home against Washington State, but it doesn't get them back in the field, yet. Still some work to be done for the Trojans. Big one at home against Washington on Saturday, and then at Cal next week before closing with the Oregon schools. Gonna be tight for USC. I think they will need a couple of Pac-10 tourney wins to seal the deal, in the end.
Posted on 2/20/09 at 1:07 am to BraveTiger225
Field of 65 after Thursday, February 19
NOTES:
-Giving Virginia Tech the benefit of the doubt until the weekend
-Dropped Minnesota into the bubble zone
-Michigan a couple of spots away
-UT-Martin replaces Morehead State as projected OVC champion
-Nicholls State replaces Sam Houston as projected Southland champion (I don't think the seed would change regardless of who it is, so why not root for the Colonels?)
-Belmont replaces Jacksonville as projected Atlantic Sun champion (Experienced team)
America East (1): (Vermont)
Atlantic 10 (2): (Xavier), Dayton
ACC (7): (North Carolina), Duke, Clemson, Wake Forest, Florida State, Boston College, Virginia Tech
Atlantic Sun (1): (Jacksonville)
Big 12 (5): (Oklahoma), Kansas, Missouri, Texas, Kansas State
Big East (8): (Pittsburgh), Connecticut, Louisville, Marquette, Villanova, Syracuse, West Virginia, Providence
Big Sky (1): (Weber State)
Big South (1): (Radford)
Big Ten (7): (Michigan State), Illinois, Ohio State, Purdue, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Penn State
Big West (1): (Long Beach State)
CAA (1): (George Mason)
Conference USA (1): (Memphis)
Horizon (1): (Butler)
Ivy (1): (Cornell)
MAAC (1): (Siena)
MAC (1): (Buffalo)
MEAC (1): (Morgan State)
Missouri Valley (1): (Creighton)
Mountain West (3): (Utah), San Diego State, BYU
NEC (1): (Robert Morris)
OVC (1): (Tennessee-Martin)
Pac-10 (5): (UCLA), Washington, Arizona State, California, Arizona
Patriot (1): (American)
SEC (5): (LSU), Florida, South Carolina, Kentucky, Tennessee
Southern (1): (Davidson)
Southland (1): (Nicholls State)
Summit (1): (North Dakota State)
Sun Belt (1): (Western Kentucky)
SWAC (1): (Alabama State)
West Coast (1): (Gonzaga)
WAC (1): (Utah State)
Last Five In:
Minnesota
Kansas State
Kentucky
Penn State
Providence
First Five Out:
St. Mary's
Michigan
UAB
Cincinnati
USC
Next Five Out:
Temple
New Mexico
UNLV
Miami
Georgetown
Potential Bid-Hawks
Conference USA: Tulsa, UAB
Horizon: Green Bay
MAAC: Niagara (if Siena is worthy of an at-large)
Southern: Citadel, Charleston
WAC: Boise State, Nevada
West Coast: St. Mary's, Portland
NOTES:
-Giving Virginia Tech the benefit of the doubt until the weekend
-Dropped Minnesota into the bubble zone
-Michigan a couple of spots away
-UT-Martin replaces Morehead State as projected OVC champion
-Nicholls State replaces Sam Houston as projected Southland champion (I don't think the seed would change regardless of who it is, so why not root for the Colonels?)
-Belmont replaces Jacksonville as projected Atlantic Sun champion (Experienced team)
America East (1): (Vermont)
Atlantic 10 (2): (Xavier), Dayton
ACC (7): (North Carolina), Duke, Clemson, Wake Forest, Florida State, Boston College, Virginia Tech
Atlantic Sun (1): (Jacksonville)
Big 12 (5): (Oklahoma), Kansas, Missouri, Texas, Kansas State
Big East (8): (Pittsburgh), Connecticut, Louisville, Marquette, Villanova, Syracuse, West Virginia, Providence
Big Sky (1): (Weber State)
Big South (1): (Radford)
Big Ten (7): (Michigan State), Illinois, Ohio State, Purdue, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Penn State
Big West (1): (Long Beach State)
CAA (1): (George Mason)
Conference USA (1): (Memphis)
Horizon (1): (Butler)
Ivy (1): (Cornell)
MAAC (1): (Siena)
MAC (1): (Buffalo)
MEAC (1): (Morgan State)
Missouri Valley (1): (Creighton)
Mountain West (3): (Utah), San Diego State, BYU
NEC (1): (Robert Morris)
OVC (1): (Tennessee-Martin)
Pac-10 (5): (UCLA), Washington, Arizona State, California, Arizona
Patriot (1): (American)
SEC (5): (LSU), Florida, South Carolina, Kentucky, Tennessee
Southern (1): (Davidson)
Southland (1): (Nicholls State)
Summit (1): (North Dakota State)
Sun Belt (1): (Western Kentucky)
SWAC (1): (Alabama State)
West Coast (1): (Gonzaga)
WAC (1): (Utah State)
Last Five In:
Minnesota
Kansas State
Kentucky
Penn State
Providence
First Five Out:
St. Mary's
Michigan
UAB
Cincinnati
USC
Next Five Out:
Temple
New Mexico
UNLV
Miami
Georgetown
Potential Bid-Hawks
Conference USA: Tulsa, UAB
Horizon: Green Bay
MAAC: Niagara (if Siena is worthy of an at-large)
Southern: Citadel, Charleston
WAC: Boise State, Nevada
West Coast: St. Mary's, Portland
Posted on 2/20/09 at 9:20 pm to PiscesTiger
I have decided to out Davidson back into the field. I just don't see another team from that conference getting in over 'em, but stranger things have happened.
Posted on 2/20/09 at 9:23 pm to PiscesTiger
quote:
I went to the Garden in '01 for the NIT Final4
My dad and I saw Vanderbilt beat St Louis in the 1990 NIT Final.
Posted on 2/20/09 at 9:23 pm to PiscesTiger
ANCHOR WATCH:
Washington
Expect them to lose to both Arizona teams, after losing a crucial game to UCLA. The current Pac 10 leader, the Huskies have not been a consistent team. If they fall to 19-9 by the middle of next week, expect the bubble to inch closer to them.
Washington
Expect them to lose to both Arizona teams, after losing a crucial game to UCLA. The current Pac 10 leader, the Huskies have not been a consistent team. If they fall to 19-9 by the middle of next week, expect the bubble to inch closer to them.
This post was edited on 2/20/09 at 9:33 pm
Posted on 2/20/09 at 9:25 pm to I-59 Tiger
quote:
My dad and I saw Vanderbilt beat St Louis in the 1990 NIT Final.
Interesting. Imagine what LSU would have done in '90 in the NIT. We smacked Vandy around twice that season...putting 100 plus in both.
Posted on 2/20/09 at 9:30 pm to PiscesTiger
I remember MSG was getting ready for the Circus. I was walking around the concourse and looked below and could see some elephants getting herded around .
That 1989-90 LSU team was one of LSU's most tragic teams. Really talented,but really young and misunderstood and will always be scoffed at by the majority of the LSU fanbase.
That 1989-90 LSU team was one of LSU's most tragic teams. Really talented,but really young and misunderstood and will always be scoffed at by the majority of the LSU fanbase.
Posted on 2/20/09 at 9:32 pm to I-59 Tiger
Remember Scott Draud from Vandy?
Posted on 2/20/09 at 9:34 pm to PiscesTiger
The Bomb Squad. He still holds their 3 pt record.Vanderbilt put up 108 in the Nashville game that year.
Vanderbilt,UNLV and Princeton are the only 3 teams to make at least one 3 pt shot since the rule was put in in 1986-7.
Vanderbilt,UNLV and Princeton are the only 3 teams to make at least one 3 pt shot since the rule was put in in 1986-7.
Posted on 2/20/09 at 11:52 pm to PiscesTiger
I'm saddened I don't have any basketball to report on tonight. Oh, well. Game 1 at the Box was a success...that place was super nice. I loved it. Can't wait to go again Sunday. Which means I have all day tomorrow for hoops action.
Posted on 2/21/09 at 8:58 am to PiscesTiger
Alright Pisces, you wanted it, here it is. A bit raw. I focused hard on getting the pod deals right, reducing travel in the opening two rounds, will probably have to re-adjust some seedings more vigorously over the weekend. Found myself agreeing way too much with Lunardi, especially the 6/11 and 3/14 in the East region. Almost identical, if not for swapping SEC schools.
Projected Auto Bids are in CAPS.
SOUTH (Memphis)
Greensboro
(1) NORTH CAROLINA vs. ALABAMA STATE/RADFORD
(8) Texas vs. (9) Tennessee
Miami
(5) Washington vs. (12) Providence
(4) Missouri vs. (13) Penn State
Boise
(6) California vs. (11) SIENA
(3) Kansas vs. (14) NORTH DAKOTA STATE
Minneapolis
(7) West Virginia vs. (10) UTAH STATE
(2) Wake Forest vs. (15) WEBER STATE
WEST (Arizona)
Kansas City
(1) OKLAHOMA vs. (16) LONG BEACH STATE
(8) BYU (not auto) vs. (9) Wisconsin
Boise
(5) GONZAGA vs. (12) Kansas State
(4) UCLA vs. (13) GEORGE MASON
Philadelphia
(6) LSU vs. (11) Arizona
(3) Duke vs. (14) UT-MARTIN
Dayton
(7) Florida State vs. (10) San Diego State
(2) Louisville vs. (15) NICHOLLS STATE
MIDWEST (Indianapolis)
Dayton
(1) PITTSBURGH vs. (16) MORGAN STATE
(8) Boston College vs. (9) DAVIDSON
Portland
(5) XAVIER vs. (12) Minnesota
(4) Arizona State vs. (13) Western Kentucky
Minneapolis
(6) Illinois vs. (11) Kentucky
(3) Marquette vs. (14) VERMONT
Greensboro
(7) Ohio State vs. (10) Virginia Tech
(2) MEMPHIS vs. (15) ROBERT MORRIS
EAST (Boston)
Philadelphia
(1) Connecticut vs. (16) CORNELL
(8) Dayton vs. (9) BUTLER
Portland
(5) Purdue vs. (12) CREIGHTON
(4) Villanova vs. (13) BUFFALO
Miami
(6) Syracuse vs. (11) Florida
(3) Clemson vs. (14) AMERICAN
Kansas City
(7) UTAH vs. (10) South Carolina
(2) MICHIGAN STATE vs. (15) BELMONT
Last Five In:
Kentucky
Minnesota
Providence
Kansas State
Penn State
First Five Out:
St. Mary's
Michigan
UAB
Cincinnati
USC
Next Five Out:
Temple
New Mexico
UNLV
Miami
Georgetown
Projected Auto Bids are in CAPS.
SOUTH (Memphis)
Greensboro
(1) NORTH CAROLINA vs. ALABAMA STATE/RADFORD
(8) Texas vs. (9) Tennessee
Miami
(5) Washington vs. (12) Providence
(4) Missouri vs. (13) Penn State
Boise
(6) California vs. (11) SIENA
(3) Kansas vs. (14) NORTH DAKOTA STATE
Minneapolis
(7) West Virginia vs. (10) UTAH STATE
(2) Wake Forest vs. (15) WEBER STATE
WEST (Arizona)
Kansas City
(1) OKLAHOMA vs. (16) LONG BEACH STATE
(8) BYU (not auto) vs. (9) Wisconsin
Boise
(5) GONZAGA vs. (12) Kansas State
(4) UCLA vs. (13) GEORGE MASON
Philadelphia
(6) LSU vs. (11) Arizona
(3) Duke vs. (14) UT-MARTIN
Dayton
(7) Florida State vs. (10) San Diego State
(2) Louisville vs. (15) NICHOLLS STATE
MIDWEST (Indianapolis)
Dayton
(1) PITTSBURGH vs. (16) MORGAN STATE
(8) Boston College vs. (9) DAVIDSON
Portland
(5) XAVIER vs. (12) Minnesota
(4) Arizona State vs. (13) Western Kentucky
Minneapolis
(6) Illinois vs. (11) Kentucky
(3) Marquette vs. (14) VERMONT
Greensboro
(7) Ohio State vs. (10) Virginia Tech
(2) MEMPHIS vs. (15) ROBERT MORRIS
EAST (Boston)
Philadelphia
(1) Connecticut vs. (16) CORNELL
(8) Dayton vs. (9) BUTLER
Portland
(5) Purdue vs. (12) CREIGHTON
(4) Villanova vs. (13) BUFFALO
Miami
(6) Syracuse vs. (11) Florida
(3) Clemson vs. (14) AMERICAN
Kansas City
(7) UTAH vs. (10) South Carolina
(2) MICHIGAN STATE vs. (15) BELMONT
Last Five In:
Kentucky
Minnesota
Providence
Kansas State
Penn State
First Five Out:
St. Mary's
Michigan
UAB
Cincinnati
USC
Next Five Out:
Temple
New Mexico
UNLV
Miami
Georgetown
This post was edited on 2/21/09 at 10:39 am
Posted on 2/21/09 at 10:51 am to BraveTiger225
Obviously this will all change again by the end of tonight/tomorrow.
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