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re: Bracketology - UPDATED 3/15
Posted on 2/8/09 at 7:52 pm to Ron Mexico
Posted on 2/8/09 at 7:52 pm to Ron Mexico
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lsu would beat tamu if they played again i think
I think so, too. Our game against them was much like the Bama game...they went to the line 400 x and we went less than 10.
Plus, we're just a much different team than we were then. Aside from Xavier and the road game at UT, we haven't been seriously challenged since that Bama loss. The teams we've blown out aren't chopped liver, either.
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Posted on 2/9/09 at 4:03 pm to PiscesTiger
Big games on tonight...
Battle for Big XII Supremecy - Mizzou and Kansas.
If Mizzou wins, I am gonna have to give them a 4-5 seed and assume that they're the real deal. Should be a good one.
Battle for Big XII Supremecy - Mizzou and Kansas.
If Mizzou wins, I am gonna have to give them a 4-5 seed and assume that they're the real deal. Should be a good one.
Posted on 2/9/09 at 4:12 pm to PiscesTiger
Another big one: Pitt-WVU. The Mountaineers can do themselves a lot of good in their tourney status by knocking off Pitt. I wouldn't put it past them, either. They are currently an 8, but that is hardly a secure spot. Beating Pitt could be the one that gets them over the hump for good.
ETA: this is my favorite freakin' time of the year. Madness starts in February as far as I'm concerned.
ETA: this is my favorite freakin' time of the year. Madness starts in February as far as I'm concerned.
This post was edited on 2/9/09 at 4:14 pm
Posted on 2/9/09 at 4:19 pm to BraveTiger225
Is it possible, also, that a conference like the SEC (that is down significantly this year) was benefited by Siena's loss to Rider in the MAAC on Saturday? If Siena could have won out (they were 12-0 at the time in conference) and won their BracketBuster against Northern Iowa, they could have had a decent case for an at-large bid.
Sometimes, the games we don't even pay attention to are the most significant.
Sometimes, the games we don't even pay attention to are the most significant.
Posted on 2/9/09 at 4:26 pm to BraveTiger225
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Siena's loss to Rider
Good point. Siena's out without winning the MAAC Tourney. Other schools that could affect SEC:
Davidson - the committee is fully aware of what Curry would bring to the arenas. Tough to keep them out if they're not an auto bid.
Northern Iowa/Creighton/Illinois State - We need the best team of the three to go ahead and win that tourney.
Portland State - Doesn't need to win that conf tourney. If they do, 3 teams from WCC likely in.
Utah State - Must take care of biz. They're a shoe in, without the conf tourney win.
Posted on 2/9/09 at 4:30 pm to PiscesTiger
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Portland State - Doesn't need to win that conf tourney. If they do, 3 teams from WCC likely in.
University of Portland. PSU will probably get the auto bid from the Big Sky. UP probably needed that game over Gonzaga. I doubt they get in without winning their tourney. Win over Washington looks pretty good though
Another interesting case is going to be St. Mary's. They could be out by the time Patty Mills comes back. They look lost without him. It will be interesting to see how the committee treats this stretch.
WCC will actually be one of the more interesting leagues down the stretch, especially if someone can upset the Zags in the tourney
This post was edited on 2/9/09 at 4:31 pm
Posted on 2/9/09 at 4:31 pm to PiscesTiger
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Portland State - Doesn't need to win that conf tourney. If they do, 3 teams from WCC likely in.
I somewhat disagree here. Gonzaga is a lock and they will roll to the WCC title thanks to the injury to Patty Mills. The question becomes: Is St. Mary's body of work strong enough that they can be mediocre in the remainder of the conference schedule, get him back for a couple of tourney wins, and still get in as an at-large if Gonzaga scoops the WCC tourney?
They have two good wins over Providence and Kansas State, but without Mills this could be an Everest-like climb for an at-large. And Portland showed the other night that Gonzaga was too much for them.
I would say WCC gets just one. Winner? SEC, Big 12, Mountain West.
ETA: SMC's next two games are against Gonzaga and Portland.
This post was edited on 2/9/09 at 4:37 pm
Posted on 2/9/09 at 4:36 pm to BraveTiger225
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Patty Mills
Saint Mary's should get him back come March, no?
Gonzaga could very well be the only team chosen, but Saint Mary's just needs a strong run without Mills. Simpson and Samhan are still solid players who must carry the team and make their post presence known. They get the Zags at home on Thursday night. A W will will get them in, no matter. The Zags are certainly a human team, as Memphis showed.
This post was edited on 2/9/09 at 4:36 pm
Posted on 2/9/09 at 4:37 pm to usc6158
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University of Portland. PSU
My mistake. I am still somewhat new to the drama going on out there, but it looks like it's gonna get interesting.
Posted on 2/9/09 at 4:37 pm to PiscesTiger
Gonzaga has been all over the map all year.
Posted on 2/9/09 at 4:39 pm to PiscesTiger
I'll elaborate on my edit above here.
St. Mary's still has games remaining against Gonzaga, Portland and a CRUUUUCIAL out-of-conference game against Utah State. Beating the Aggies might do them some good in the long run, but they are a markedly different team without Mills running the show.
Could they hang in there? Sure. But does 9-5 in the WCC get you a bid? Eh...
That is supposedly the case, and don't be surprised if he "rushes" back to action to save the Gaels' season. If he's back and healthy, they can take Gonzaga and win the WCC tourney.
St. Mary's still has games remaining against Gonzaga, Portland and a CRUUUUCIAL out-of-conference game against Utah State. Beating the Aggies might do them some good in the long run, but they are a markedly different team without Mills running the show.
Could they hang in there? Sure. But does 9-5 in the WCC get you a bid? Eh...
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Saint Mary's should get him back come March, no?
That is supposedly the case, and don't be surprised if he "rushes" back to action to save the Gaels' season. If he's back and healthy, they can take Gonzaga and win the WCC tourney.
Posted on 2/9/09 at 6:40 pm to PiscesTiger
WVU hanging with Pitt, who I think is going to eventually go down hill a bit.
WVU wins and they're very strong to be in the tourney.
WVU wins and they're very strong to be in the tourney.
Posted on 2/9/09 at 7:52 pm to PiscesTiger
WVU making a strong case for why they DON'T belong.
Posted on 2/9/09 at 10:09 pm to PiscesTiger
I don't care who wins game between Mizzou and Kansas...not that impressed with either. Mizzou is god awful from the FT line.
Posted on 2/9/09 at 10:19 pm to PiscesTiger
Wow. Kansas GAVE that game away.
Posted on 2/9/09 at 10:21 pm to PiscesTiger
Zaire- not just a former country in Africa
Posted on 2/9/09 at 10:29 pm to Esarhaddon
Huge shot. Mizzou is elevating, no matter how good/bad I think they are, to 4 seed status.
OU is just so much better than everyone in the Big XII.
OU is just so much better than everyone in the Big XII.
Posted on 2/9/09 at 10:30 pm to PiscesTiger
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Wow. Kansas GAVE that game away.
The inexperience of KU showed in this one. Bill Self has been doing a phenomenal coaching job, but they caved late to what wasn't the most overwhelming pressure I've ever seen.
And, on the last play, even more inexperience. Tyrel Reed bit just enough on Taylor's shot fake that it allowed him space to get an open mid-range jumper. An experienced player lets Taylor jack up a contested 3-pointer to win the game.
As for WVU-Pitt, I figured WVU would hang in there, but that only lasted for about a half. Their SOS is keeping them highly seeded (Tennessee disease), but I think the projections will start to fall for them. It was one of the worst games I've ever seen Da'Sean Butler play, and the shooting was atrocious. Once DeJuan Blair was able to get involved in the second half, it was over. And Sam Young needs to get some play for national honors. What a fantastic player.
WVU has just one win against the top teams in the Big East (Georgetown), and that win is diminishing in value with every game the Hoyas play. They have the chance to sneak in, still, due to a decent final 7 games.
Pitt = #1 seed, barring any other upsets. I love this team.
ETA: Projected seeds (right now) of the four major players tonight:
Pitt - 1, Mizzou - 4, Kansas - 5, WVU - 8
This post was edited on 2/9/09 at 10:32 pm
Posted on 2/9/09 at 10:42 pm to BraveTiger225
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WVU
Is one loss away from being ousted from my bracket. I think Huggy Bear will get them ready for the Big East tourney and remember this - they make the final 4 of the Big East tourney...upsetting a top 3 seed along the way. Some teams - those already locked for NCAA - do not get up for the Big East Tourney. Teams that are playing for seed have to. WVU has to, as they are playing for much more than seed.
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Pitt = #1 seed, barring any other upsets. I love this team.
I still have them at 2. I think they drop another 2-3 games, including Big East tourney. I like them, too...well rounded. Young, Biggs, and Blair make a terrific frontcourt. Fields, though, is the heart and soul of that team. Without him, Pitt would be lost. There my first #2 seed though.
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Pitt - 1, Mizzou - 4, Kansas - 5, WVU - 8
Pitt - 2
Mizzou - moved from a 7 to a 5 and maybe a 4 in the last week
Kansas - still 8-1 in Big XII. Got em at a 4...but edging 5.
WVU - You are being waaaaaaaaaaay to generous for WVU. You contradict your very good analysis of them. They are, as of now, a 9 at best and with the future looking rough, I think 11 suits them best. They are dangerous when ON. If they can just get ON.
Posted on 2/9/09 at 10:48 pm to PiscesTiger
If Duke and UNC keep beating everyone else, but each other, they will both be #1's. Pitt needs one of them to fall off a bit. I think Wake falls off before either Duke or the Heels, though. Pitt has a decent schedule, but they have to go to Storrs and then look out for Providence, who would probably get back on the bubble with a win at home vs. Panthers. Aside from those two games and a home contest with Marquette, Pitt should cruise into the Big East tourney as a 2 seed and likely play their first game against the winner of Georgwtown/St. John's. Then, they'd have a classic battle with Louisville, likely. Winner of that game, I predict, wins their tourney...then, Pitt makes a case for 1.
Bottom line - The ACC or the Big East is going to get two teams into the dance as 1 seeds.
Bottom line - The ACC or the Big East is going to get two teams into the dance as 1 seeds.
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