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Thinking about hitting 401k limit with May Bonus
Posted on 5/13/21 at 8:58 pm
Posted on 5/13/21 at 8:58 pm
I should get annual bonus end of May. I am thinking about changing contribution 25-40% so I hit 401K limit.
Question for board how risky is this versus doing it over the whole year?
Question for board how risky is this versus doing it over the whole year?
Posted on 5/13/21 at 8:59 pm to thelawnwranglers
Will it affect how your company matches?
Posted on 5/13/21 at 9:00 pm to thelawnwranglers
Stonks only go up...
Serious note, if you have the money (and we aren’t at an all time high), why not? Lump sum dump in and focus on funding other accounts for the rest of the year.
Serious note, if you have the money (and we aren’t at an all time high), why not? Lump sum dump in and focus on funding other accounts for the rest of the year.
Posted on 5/13/21 at 9:03 pm to thelawnwranglers
19.5k or the 56k limit?
Posted on 5/13/21 at 9:09 pm to thelawnwranglers
Your bonus goes into your 401k?
Posted on 5/13/21 at 9:10 pm to thelawnwranglers
quote:There's studies on this. Lump sum early vs DCA.
Question for board how risky is this versus doing it over the whole year?
But the most important thing here is potential company matching implications, if any.
Posted on 5/13/21 at 9:11 pm to jimbeam
quote:
Will it affect how your company matches?
Company will do catch-up in December $3-4k impact
Posted on 5/13/21 at 9:11 pm to hottub
quote:
19.5k or the 56k limit?
$19.5k what is $56k limit?
Posted on 5/13/21 at 9:14 pm to CE Tiger
quote:
Your bonus goes into your 401k?
X % of my pay goes in 401k
Do instead of regular 10-12% I am going to up percentage so bonus goes more to 401k
Posted on 5/13/21 at 9:15 pm to castorinho
quote:
There's studies on this. Lump sum early vs DCA.
But the most important thing here is potential company matching implications, if any.
So systematically I lose out on 4% match over year but they true up at December 31
Impact should be $3-4k
This post was edited on 5/13/21 at 9:16 pm
Posted on 5/13/21 at 9:24 pm to thelawnwranglers
Max for employer, pretax, and after tax contributions
ETA: i think the limit is 58k for 2021
ETA: i think the limit is 58k for 2021
This post was edited on 5/13/21 at 9:27 pm
Posted on 5/13/21 at 9:25 pm to thelawnwranglers
quote:
X % of my pay goes in 401k
My bonus never goes to my 401k , payroll treats it as separate
Posted on 5/13/21 at 9:30 pm to CE Tiger
quote:
My bonus never goes to my 401k , payroll treats it as separate
Oh for some reason I can't do different amounts they just pull same % for regular and bonus
Posted on 5/13/21 at 9:32 pm to thelawnwranglers
Guess it would depend on how flexible your plan is about changes. I can login at any time and change contribution percentages but sometimes they take a while to go into effect. I moved mine from 20 to 15 a few weeks ago because I was making more than anticipated but the change won't go into effect for a couple months.
Posted on 5/13/21 at 9:35 pm to CE Tiger
quote:Yeah might as well go for it. You're contributing, that's the most important and you're not losing out on the match.
So systematically I lose out on 4% match over year but they true up at December 31
Impact should be $3-4k
I'd personally just DCA over the last seven months, but I'd suspect if you run numbers the range of realistic outcomes isn't wide.
quote:Yeah same.
My bonus never goes to my 401k , payroll treats it as separate
Posted on 5/13/21 at 9:36 pm to Powerman
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Guess it would depend on how flexible your plan is about changes. I can login at any time and change contribution percentages but sometimes they take a while to go into effect.
Usually it happens same payroll period. I got it up to 25% so May 15th is going to hurt. A little annoyed they won't tell us bonus basically until day of. My guess 25% won't get me to $19,500 hopefully close.
Might get jelly of month lol
Posted on 5/13/21 at 9:39 pm to castorinho
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Yeah might as well go for it.
Yeah hoping to then build better savings. I am usually pretty good on 401k but don't save as well otherwise.
What I do save I just buy stonks even though I try and keep emergency cash
Posted on 5/13/21 at 11:08 pm to thelawnwranglers
quote:
Question for board how risky is this versus doing it over the whole year?
Last year, I front loaded and bought my whole year’s worth of contributions in mid-February. Three days later, things began to tumble. Then they came back. I ended the year up, still (60% S&p, 20% small cap, 20% international).
You’ll never know when a peak or trough occurs until later.
You’ll end the year up (in the s&p. I’m sure the total market is similar) about 3 in every 4 years.
After “losing” 30% of what I put in over the course of a few weeks, I still maintain a 100% equities portfolio, don’t sell (so I never really “lost” any money at all!), and plan on front loading annual contributions in the future.
For a “boring” strategy where you buy and hold, which is typically what a 401k is going to offer, it’s probably got more upside than downside.
Being aware enough to ask the question probably means you’ve already won the game, and the difference between the two isn’t going to be the difference between you retiring earlier/later/richer/poorer.
Posted on 5/14/21 at 5:50 am to Hopeful Doc
Yeah most of the math says lump sum as early as possible gives you more money in the long run since stocks mostly go up. DCA gives you a better worst case scenario and is also just easy, so it’s an understandable default option.
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