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re: Student Loan Debt Cancellation - Should people who paid off during freeze get refunds?

Posted on 6/20/22 at 11:26 am to
Posted by AllbyMyRelf
Virginia
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 6/20/22 at 11:26 am to
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That's literally what student loan forgiveness is about.
Yeah, because engineers, lawyers, doctors, and veterinarians don’t ever have student loans
Posted by bod312
Member since Jul 2015
846 posts
Posted on 6/20/22 at 11:43 am to
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While this is a MUCH better idea than student loan forgiveness, it still doesn’t address the problem.


I agree it doesn't solve the root cause but would lead to much higher value of money paid back to the government. It could end the whole forgiveness talk though because literally the only people who would have to pay it back "have a means to".

I just don't see them leaving the loan game because of how it would disproportionately impact the different demographics that the government likes keying on.
Posted by j1897
Member since Nov 2011
5091 posts
Posted on 6/20/22 at 12:13 pm to
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Yeah, because engineers, lawyers, doctors, and veterinarians don’t ever have student loans



They pay them off. Can't tell if trolling or serious.
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
72677 posts
Posted on 6/20/22 at 12:16 pm to
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That's literally what student loan forgiveness is about.



It's not, they want to give essentially everyone forgiveness when they're talking about single filers up to $150k and married filers up to $300k.

Single people making $140k and married households making $290k dont need any forgiveness.

This is all a vote buying scheme and nothing more.
This post was edited on 6/21/22 at 8:04 am
Posted by AllbyMyRelf
Virginia
Member since Nov 2014
4332 posts
Posted on 6/20/22 at 12:16 pm to
You must not know that many lawyers.

Also, you still haven’t explained what the free market will “fix” if college degrees are taken away in bankruptcy?
This post was edited on 6/20/22 at 12:19 pm
Posted by bod312
Member since Jul 2015
846 posts
Posted on 6/20/22 at 1:21 pm to
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They pay them off. Can't tell if trolling or serious.


You should go do some research on who holds the vast majority of the student loan debt. Hint its Lawyers, Doctors and other professional degrees.

Also those professions are notoriously known for not the best money managers.
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
37756 posts
Posted on 6/20/22 at 1:53 pm to
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Yeah, because engineers, lawyers, doctors, and veterinarians don’t ever have student loans



They pay them off. Can't tell if trolling or serious



It takes a while.

With tuition increases there are a lot of people with doctoral degrees who accumulated 300k or more of debt between college and graduate school.

I don't think it makes financial sense to become a veterinarian or public attorney in most cases today.

The solution can not be debt forgiveness though. It makes no sense for everyone else to assume the debt equally when they didn't have a choice. Forgiveness also doesn't address the ongoing problems with future graduates also needing training at more reasonable costs than 50k a year in tuition and housing.
Posted by MSTiger33
Member since Oct 2007
21774 posts
Posted on 6/21/22 at 7:24 am to
What about people with private loans? They are SOL
Posted by Bunsbert Montcroff
Boise ID
Member since Jan 2008
5789 posts
Posted on 6/21/22 at 1:52 pm to
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We gave TRILLIONS to the fricking banks in 2008.

Giving that trillions to working citizens (which debt cancellation essentially does) would have been a way better thing.

the banks paid that back and the government made about 3 billion dollars from the deal.
Posted by Im4datigers
Northern Virginia
Member since Oct 2003
4688 posts
Posted on 6/21/22 at 4:12 pm to
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Also those professions are notoriously known for not the best money managers.


as a 25 year commercial banker, I can confirm this statement is 100% absolutely true!!!!!
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