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re: Setting Up a Trust for Children Advice
Posted on 8/20/20 at 9:25 am to Triple Bogey
Posted on 8/20/20 at 9:25 am to Triple Bogey
What is the nature of the assets you wish to put in trust? You mentioned this was "separate property." One thing to consider is your kids will receive this property when you die anyway. Are you more concerned about your kids' potential mismanagement (obviously very far off) or the mismanagement by their mother? Otherwise, I'm not sure you need to mess with a trust at the moment, depending on the type of property.
Posted on 8/20/20 at 9:29 am to LSUFanHouston
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Is there a reason, then, that you don't want to name yourself as the trustee?
It seems that probate avoidance or tax issues isn't the driving factor here. So, if you want to segregate a portion or all of this property solely for the kids benefit, just create a trust for that. Name yourself trustee and your wife as secondary trustee.
If you die, then your wife should be on the same page with you, and she can then name a new secondary trustee in the event of her death.
I trust my wife, but people change, and its hard to look 20 years into the future and have any sort of certainty when it comes to these types of things. From what I have seen in my own personal experience, money makes people go crazy. I have had issues within my own immediate family.
Posted on 8/20/20 at 9:39 am to lsujro
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What is the nature of the assets you wish to put in trust?
Its an investment account under 3rd party management. But I'm worried about the mismanagement of all parties involved. It's hard to predict how responsible your kids are going to be when they are so young now. I trust my wife 100% at this point, but if I die who knows what could happen. All of this is assuming I die before they get older (I'm in my 30s) and I'm just trying to protect them in the event that something extremely unfortunate happens.
Posted on 8/20/20 at 9:46 am to Triple Bogey
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I trust my wife, but people change, and its hard to look 20 years into the future and have any sort of certainty when it comes to these types of things. From what I have seen in my own personal experience, money makes people go crazy. I have had issues within my own immediate family.
Please sit with an estate planning expert: a really good one will talk through this with you. What is your goal? To preserve cash for your children? You're right that people change & money makes ppl do crazy things--but you also need to consider that preserving cash for your children might deprive your wife in some future time of need/crisis. Would you really want her to be in need at the expense of preserving cash for your children?
Imagine a scenario where you predecease your wife & you've locked up the separate property, tight, for the children's use when they're 25 or older. She comes down with (G*d forbid) MS or a similarly debilitating condition & needs care....modifications to a house to allow her to live at home with the still-minor kids, etc. Would you really want them to suffer, while preserving the cash for later?
I know you're fixated on the "bad" that people potentially do with money; but assuming the worst of one's spouse seems pre-emptively cruel. Life insurance or other strategies should be considered as you plan for the future.
Posted on 8/20/20 at 9:53 am to Triple Bogey
If you're talking about investment assets and have this hard a time finding someone close to you to manage, you should absolutely use a corporate trustee for your successor. Many of the major brokerages have in house trust management and the fees aren't terrible (they will just come from assets). Set it up to give trustee plenty of discretion to fund child's needs and education, and figure out what event you want to trigger dissolution (age, marriage, etc.). You'll need a lawyer and a financial adviser to help you get it set up, but process is pretty painless.
Posted on 8/20/20 at 9:54 am to hungryone
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but you also need to consider that preserving cash for your children might deprive your wife in some future time of need/crisis. Would you really want her to be in need at the expense of preserving cash for your children?
In this scenario, my wife would be taken care of. I am basically splitting up a few things just to make sure that she is taken care of, but that the kids are as well.
Posted on 8/20/20 at 10:38 am to Triple Bogey
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I am basically splitting up a few things just to make sure that she is taken care of, but that the kids are as well.
They are her kids too. If you croak next year, protecting those kids gonna be her #1 priority unless you married a demon wench. Unless you're talking millions here, it sounds like you are overthinking this.
Posted on 8/20/20 at 11:13 am to Triple Bogey
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I trust my wife, but people change, and its hard to look 20 years into the future and have any sort of certainty when it comes to these types of things. From what I have seen in my own personal experience, money makes people go crazy. I have had issues within my own immediate family.
I'm going through a divorce right now, and trust me, I understand that people change. I've also seen death/money cause people to do crazy things (even when the amount isn't that much).
Have you discussed with your wife, what her thoughts are?
It sounds like you are concerned with both how your wife and your kids will act.
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