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Question on rolling oil stocks, more precisely Murphy Oil
Posted on 12/28/23 at 9:16 am
Posted on 12/28/23 at 9:16 am
Rolling, of course meaning selling it high, buying it back at a lower price, repeat, repeat...
Am I correct to assume you simply buy oil stocks when gas prices are low and sell it after gas prices have gone up? then hold in cash and wait for gas prices to go down again?
This is assuming oil stocks do well when people are complaining about gas prices, so sell, hold in cash, and then buy it back when people are happy about gas prices... ?
Am I correct to assume you simply buy oil stocks when gas prices are low and sell it after gas prices have gone up? then hold in cash and wait for gas prices to go down again?
This is assuming oil stocks do well when people are complaining about gas prices, so sell, hold in cash, and then buy it back when people are happy about gas prices... ?
Posted on 12/28/23 at 9:35 am to Harry Rex Vonner
Are you talking MUSA or MUR?
MUSA-> downstream convenient store/gas station.
MUR-> O&G drilling and production
MUSA-> downstream convenient store/gas station.
MUR-> O&G drilling and production
Posted on 12/28/23 at 5:48 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
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Am I correct to assume you simply buy oil stocks when gas prices are low and sell it after gas prices have gone up? then hold in cash and wait for gas prices to go down again?
I wouldn’t say “simply”, mainly because low is a purely relative term. How low is low enough to buy and how high is high enough to sell or short? Typically rolling strategies involve some form of technical analysis. At one time (about 20 years ago), I used Telechart’s TC2000 software package to develop some rolling stock strategies off of various shorter term technical indicators. Typical holding period was 2-4 weeks, sometimes going out as far as a couple of months. Over time, I didn’t find that my returns were meaningfully above what I’d get from an S&P500 index fund. And as I began comparing the returns and capital intensity of rolling stocks vs. short premium options strategies, options won out handily and I stopped. Now, I may wheel stocks (sell covered calls or dump at a higher price, as technicals indicate) that get assigned to me off busted short puts, but I don’t actually buy stocks outright with the intention of rolling.
If you’re serious about pursuing this as a trading strategy, there are several sources that you might find useful in gaining more indepth knowledge of rolling stock strategies. Including books and online primers, have a look at the Investor's Business Daily site. I believe there is still a section there that deals with the strategy.
Good luck.
Posted on 12/28/23 at 9:18 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
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Am I correct to assume you simply buy oil stocks when gas prices are low and sell it after gas prices have gone up? then hold in cash and wait for gas prices to go down again?
Yep. It’s simple. Good luck.
Posted on 12/29/23 at 10:14 am to Jag_Warrior
Thanks man
This is play money.
High 90-something-percent of my portfolio is in pretty safe stuff.
This is play money.
High 90-something-percent of my portfolio is in pretty safe stuff.
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