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Posted on 8/22/12 at 6:38 pm
Posted by sherrifftaylor
SELP
Member since Jul 2012
878 posts
Posted on 8/22/12 at 6:38 pm
got a visit from the tax accesor today. he now says we owe taxes on computers, desks, chairs, and everything else not attached to building. none of the above is part of our "inventory". never had this problem before. WTF??? soon to be fired CPA is "looking in to it" what did i miss???
Posted by Hugo Stiglitz
Member since Oct 2010
72937 posts
Posted on 8/22/12 at 6:38 pm to
Are you an S-corp or what?
Posted by Paige
Vice President of the OT
Member since Oct 2010
84748 posts
Posted on 8/22/12 at 6:38 pm to
Did you try the money board?
Posted by VetteGuy
Member since Feb 2008
28105 posts
Posted on 8/22/12 at 6:40 pm to
Absolutely correct.

You owe, pay up.

ETA: your CPA sucks. Fire him/her.
This post was edited on 8/22/12 at 6:42 pm
Posted by NOX
Member since Dec 2009
5917 posts
Posted on 8/22/12 at 6:44 pm to
quote:

Did you try the money board


this ... but your CPA should be claiming and depreciating these assets.

Posted by SippyCup
Gulf Coast
Member since Sep 2008
6139 posts
Posted on 8/22/12 at 6:47 pm to
Your CPA will probably blame you for not bringing him/her the form the parish sends you every year. Fact is, you do owe tax on these assets and there is nothing your CPA can do about it now.
Posted by ATL TGR
Houston
Member since Apr 2008
2878 posts
Posted on 8/22/12 at 6:49 pm to
Sales use tax?

Did you pay tax when you purchased the assets? If so you shouldn't owe additional use tax...
Posted by Gator5220
Member since Aug 2010
3131 posts
Posted on 8/22/12 at 6:51 pm to
It's called tangible property tax.

I pay it every year. Your CPA should know better.
Posted by Drummin Fool
Yo momma knows where I'm at!
Member since Jun 2010
1099 posts
Posted on 8/22/12 at 6:53 pm to
quote:

Did you pay tax when you purchased the assets? If so you shouldn't owe additional use tax.


This.


The government is going after capitalist pig small business owners now? Who'd a thunk it?
Posted by fastedLSU
BR
Member since Sep 2007
4477 posts
Posted on 8/22/12 at 6:53 pm to
It's a property tax. You start paying in your second year of business.
Posted by southernelite
Dallas
Member since Sep 2009
53174 posts
Posted on 8/22/12 at 7:06 pm to
This guy should just close up shop right now. If he didnt know this, how is gonna run a damn business?
Posted by Tigerntx
NOLA
Member since Jul 2011
1309 posts
Posted on 8/22/12 at 7:16 pm to
If you paid sales tax @ purchase - no tax due.
If you purchased tax exempt, then the Use Tax is applicable.
That simple.
Posted by VetteGuy
Member since Feb 2008
28105 posts
Posted on 8/22/12 at 7:20 pm to
No.
Posted by simonizer
no
Member since Oct 2008
1647 posts
Posted on 8/22/12 at 7:27 pm to
quote:

If you paid sales tax @ purchase - no tax due.
If you purchased tax exempt, then the Use Tax is applicable.
That simple.



this is not use tax, it is personal property tax for businesses. it applies to all equipment,furniture and fixtures, leasehold improvements and inventory.

you report the cost of these items to the assessor's office on a yearly basis.

if you did not send in the form, then they will usually estimate what they think you have and send you a bill.

in this case they decided to inspect to see what the taxpayer had. if you do not agree with their assessment you can sometimes appeal the decision with the assessor's office

it sounds like you have been getting away without paying this tax for a while.
Posted by VetteGuy
Member since Feb 2008
28105 posts
Posted on 8/22/12 at 7:32 pm to
You should go be that guy's accountant.
Posted by sherrifftaylor
SELP
Member since Jul 2012
878 posts
Posted on 8/22/12 at 7:36 pm to
Yeah, I'm fricked. Closing up shop tomorrow.
We've paid inventory tax, but never been accessed on equipment used for day to day operations.
Posted by ruzil
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2012
16875 posts
Posted on 8/22/12 at 7:47 pm to
quote:

If you paid sales tax @ purchase - no tax due.
If you purchased tax exempt, then the Use Tax is applicable.
That simple.


Wrongo
Posted by ruzil
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2012
16875 posts
Posted on 8/22/12 at 7:57 pm to
quote:

this is not use tax, it is personal property tax for businesses. it applies to all equipment,furniture and fixtures, leasehold improvements and inventory.

you report the cost of these items to the assessor's office on a yearly basis.

if you did not send in the form, then they will usually estimate what they think you have and send you a bill.

in this case they decided to inspect to see what the taxpayer had. if you do not agree with their assessment you can sometimes appeal the decision with the assessor's office

it sounds like you have been getting away without paying this tax for a while.



Good information here. I will add that the assessors office picks this up by your depreciation schedule. What taxes you save by depreciating equipment and fixtures you lose by having to list them on the personal property tax form.

Sucks sometimes to be a business owner. I especially like the franchise tax and the $500 tax on my property that is dedicated for trash pickup. The city doesn't pick up my trash since I am a business, I have to pay Allied Waste $108/month for trash pickup.
Posted by Bullfrog
Institutionalized but Unevaluated
Member since Jul 2010
56188 posts
Posted on 8/22/12 at 8:22 pm to
If you bought all your stuff used with a used value, you save a lot on this tax. Make sure you can produce receipts if needed. I was never asked for them but I did go down to the assessors office to get clarity on what they wanted and it helped alot.

The classes of assets follow a crummy depreciation schedule, like 18 years to depreciate a filing cabinet and maybe 7 years for a pc.

If they estimate your taxes, they will over estimate value of your junk by 2 or more times. The next year the tax will go up 10%. Until you file the form they send you every year properly. You can't do anything about past assessments, only the current one, in my experience.
This post was edited on 8/22/12 at 8:25 pm
Posted by ForeLSU
The Corner of Sanity and Madness
Member since Sep 2003
41525 posts
Posted on 8/22/12 at 9:37 pm to
quote:

he now says we owe taxes on computers, desks, chairs, and everything else not attached to building. none of the above is part of our "inventory".


it's called property tax...
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