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re: Official CryptoTalk Thread
Posted on 6/11/19 at 2:46 pm to stout
Posted on 6/11/19 at 2:46 pm to stout
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From what I can tell LINK isn't doing anything to set itself apart just like the hundreds of other coins.
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From what I can tell
Based on your google search?
Your sentiment on crypto is fine, but you may want to pump the brakes on judgments about individual projects if you don't plan to do any research.
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Posted on 6/11/19 at 3:00 pm to DeathValley85
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Your sentiment on crypto is fine,
What is my sentiment? Please tell me since I never fully shared it here.
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but you may want to pump the brakes on judgments about individual projects if you don't plan to do any research.
Since I am so misinformed why don't you tell me what you discovered in your extensive research that shows LINK is different? What does it currently do better or what is it doing that no other coin promises to do?
You guys are regurgitating the same things and so far everything you guys have said there are other coins that promise they will offer the same so why is LINK the one? This is a serious question.
This time last year this board/thread was saying other coins were the one and special. I remember ECA was going to change lives. What happened to it? I even bought into the Vechain hype.
There is nothing proprietary at this point from any of the coins. They all offer tech that can be duplicated if someone with the resources wanted to. Vechain could come out tomorrow and say they are adding decentralized oracles for example.
Posted on 6/11/19 at 3:06 pm to stout
quote:This is what worries me the most, so it basically boils down to what CEO will persevere. CE Tiger is betting heavily on Sergey with link. I think it’s a solid bet compared to others.
They all offer tech that can be duplicated if someone with the resources wanted to.
Posted on 6/11/19 at 3:10 pm to Dellybelly82
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CE Tiger is betting heavily on Sergey with link. I think it’s a solid bet compared to others.
And that's fair if that's the case. Just like betting on Google vs Yahoo. Google had better leadership even though Yahoo was ahead of them at one time and passed on the chance to buy google.
Posted on 6/11/19 at 3:34 pm to stout
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What is my sentiment? Please tell me since I never fully shared it here.
You’ve shared it plenty. I’m not going to copy and paste your own posts here.
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Since I am so misinformed why don't you tell me what you discovered in your extensive research that shows LINK is different? What does it currently do better or what is it doing that no other coin promises to do?
Absolutely fricking not. Either read CE Tiger’s multiple posts on the project or look into it for yourself. Or don’t.
Posted on 6/11/19 at 3:47 pm to DeathValley85
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You’ve shared it plenty.
No I haven't.
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I’m not going to copy and paste your own posts here.
Because you're assuming you know. I have never flat out said my sentiments on Crypto. In fact I'd bet money your assumptions are wrong.
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Absolutely fricking not. Either read CE Tiger’s multiple posts on the project or look into it for yourself. Or don’t.
LOL
I like how you concede by not trying to concede
Posted on 6/11/19 at 3:54 pm to stout
A dirty little not so secret about crypto...
Unless you can read code yourself and have a very good understanding of computer science / networking fundamentals you are taking someone else's word on what these projects actually do. This means that the devs and their marketing teams can make all kinds of claims about what each project can or will do and the majority of the crypto heard (I'd guess > 90%) are just buying into a marketing plan and a dream.
If you see an axe in the hardware store you can be reasonably certain with minimal inspection whether or not it can chop wood. Can you be sure that LINK will be able to inferface with hundreds of other shitcoins just by reading their website, or even their whitepaper? Can you be sure that IOTA is infinitely scalable by the same means?
Outside of the few experts in the fields that crypto intersects (CS, economics, networking, etc) it comes down to a matter of faith as to which projects may actually be able to do what they claim they can do. Worse still is the problem of experts needing to put food on the table. The quote "it is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it" sums that up best. Many projects have teams with impressive resumes but there is no way to be certain if they actually believe in the project or are simply hired guns.
Unless you can read code yourself and have a very good understanding of computer science / networking fundamentals you are taking someone else's word on what these projects actually do. This means that the devs and their marketing teams can make all kinds of claims about what each project can or will do and the majority of the crypto heard (I'd guess > 90%) are just buying into a marketing plan and a dream.
If you see an axe in the hardware store you can be reasonably certain with minimal inspection whether or not it can chop wood. Can you be sure that LINK will be able to inferface with hundreds of other shitcoins just by reading their website, or even their whitepaper? Can you be sure that IOTA is infinitely scalable by the same means?
Outside of the few experts in the fields that crypto intersects (CS, economics, networking, etc) it comes down to a matter of faith as to which projects may actually be able to do what they claim they can do. Worse still is the problem of experts needing to put food on the table. The quote "it is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it" sums that up best. Many projects have teams with impressive resumes but there is no way to be certain if they actually believe in the project or are simply hired guns.
This post was edited on 6/11/19 at 4:02 pm
Posted on 6/11/19 at 3:54 pm to stout
Who wants to share information with an arrogant a-hole?
You’re being disingenuous. You’re mind is completely made up.
You’re just using a bunch of words to essentially say “prove me wrong”. A living meme.
You’re being disingenuous. You’re mind is completely made up.
You’re just using a bunch of words to essentially say “prove me wrong”. A living meme.
Posted on 6/11/19 at 3:59 pm to Douglas Quaid
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Douglas Quaid
Well stated and this is essentially what I was getting at. We are in the early days still and only time will shake out the shitcoins. No one here knows more than anyone else about which will be the winners and losers and it's OK to admit that. The picture will hopefully get clearer over time but right now it's just pure speculation and hope. I don't think you can even effectively make an educated guess because of what you described.
Posted on 6/11/19 at 4:02 pm to DeathValley85
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Who wants to share information with an arrogant a-hole?
You’re being disingenuous. You’re mind is completely made up.
You’re just using a bunch of words to essentially say “prove me wrong”. A living meme.
It took you a lot of words to say you have no way to refute anything I stated and have nothing to contribute.
See the post above you. That is having a discussion and open debate despite difference of opinion.
Posted on 6/11/19 at 4:06 pm to stout
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difference of opinion
I don't know that we've even had that.
Posted on 6/11/19 at 4:11 pm to Douglas Quaid
We don't. Just pointing out that it;s OK to have a discussion no matter which side of the fence you are on.
I don't even have a difference of opinion with anyone in this thread towards crypto. I firmly believe in it and realize it's the future for many applications. I am a bit more pragmatic towards it as an investment vehicle, though, and that irritates the sunshine pumpers.
I don't even have a difference of opinion with anyone in this thread towards crypto. I firmly believe in it and realize it's the future for many applications. I am a bit more pragmatic towards it as an investment vehicle, though, and that irritates the sunshine pumpers.
Posted on 6/11/19 at 4:54 pm to stout
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It took you a lot of words to say you have no way to refute anything I stated and have nothing to contribute. See the post above you. That is having a discussion and open debate despite difference of opinion.
I think you’re confused. You and I aren’t discussing or debating. It was just very clear from your posts that you’ve done zero to minimal research about specific projects, but enjoy shitting on them anyway. Kinda seems like my original comment below hurt your feelings.
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Your sentiment on crypto is fine, but you may want to pump the brakes on judgments about individual projects if you don't plan to do any research.
ETA: Hold the phone...didn’t you lobby to get this thread deleted? If my memory is correct...hmmm
This post was edited on 6/11/19 at 5:14 pm
Posted on 6/11/19 at 4:56 pm to stout
I have watched every Sergey presentation from Cryplets, Sibos, DevCon, SXSW to the fireside chat with Tom Gonser. I’ve read the white paper and read every medium article that’s come out in the past 2 years about Link. Don’t act like I’m just spewing bullet points off a website.
Posted on 6/11/19 at 5:38 pm to DeathValley85
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You and I aren’t discussing or debating.
Yea it's clear you wouldn't bring anything to a discussion anyway so I agree with you there.
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It was just very clear from your posts that you’ve done zero to minimal research about specific projects, but enjoy shitting on them anyway.
Quit assuming. It makes you look bad.
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Kinda seems like my original comment below hurt your feelings.
Please don't make the mistake over valuing what your opinion means to me or anyone else for that matter.
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ETA: Hold the phone...didn’t you lobby to get this thread deleted? If my memory is correct...hmmm
No. I got the ECA pump and dump thread deleted because it was dangerous. As small as the market cap was, and as many people that were posting here buying up large amounts of it, it's naive to think that TD couldn't move to the needle. People on twitter with less of an audience move needles on penny stocks. There's a reason Chicken doesn't allow penny stock threads here and crypto shouldn't be an exception.
Finchmeister and a few posters that got suckered into it and lost money. They were very bothered by it.
Also, at the height of crypto all other financial talk on this board was strangled. You had people even going into stock threads interrupting them cheering on crypto and killed all constructive talk. I just asked Chicken to reign it in and he agreed it was too much.
Posted on 6/11/19 at 5:42 pm to CE Tiger
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I have watched every Sergey presentation from Cryplets, Sibos, DevCon, SXSW to the fireside chat with Tom Gonser. I’ve read the white paper and read every medium article that’s come out in the past 2 years about Link
That's cool but Douglas Quaid posted some great points about research and crypto. I agree with all of his points.
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Don’t act like I’m just spewing bullet points off a website.
Agree to disagree because you kind of are. You have to take what their PR team says and run with it. Those articles are written by info from the PR department. Sergey's presentation are from a PR standpoint, etc.
I have no issues with that, but just be real and say you like the potential. It's really that simple. On the other hand you don't present it as that. You present it as the end all be all and all other coins are shite with no chance when in reality there is nothing proprietary about what LINK is doing.
Posted on 6/11/19 at 6:00 pm to stout
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Yea it's clear you wouldn't bring anything to a discussion anyway so I agree with you there.
Deflect insult.
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Quit assuming. It makes you look bad.
Just like you’re doing about multiple crypto projects
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Please don't make the mistake over valuing what your opinion means to me or anyone else for that matter.
Some more butthurt
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No. I got the ECA pump and dump thread deleted because it was dangerous.
I know you’re type. If you don’t feel like this smartest guy in a room you’d rather blow up the room. Looks like that what you did here and have crawled back. Mission accomplished.
Strange you only validate the posters who echo what you say.
This post was edited on 6/11/19 at 6:01 pm
Posted on 6/11/19 at 6:14 pm to DeathValley85
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I know you’re type. If you don’t feel like this smartest guy in a room you’d rather blow up the room. Looks like that what you did here and have crawled back. Mission accomplished.
Do you ever do anything other than make baseless assumptions as a way to deflect that you offer nothing to a discussion?
You are talking a lot but offer nothing constructive and justify it by these assumptions you make. What a waste of time.
Posted on 6/11/19 at 6:24 pm to stout
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Do you ever do anything other than make baseless assumptions as a way to deflect that you offer nothing to a discussion? You are talking a lot but offer nothing constructive and justify it by these assumptions you make. What a waste of time.
Like I said before, why engage with you? You’re disingenuous. You validated an earlier post because it was something you agreed with.
Then when presented with information that challenges your view it’s either ignored or dismissed.
When i told you why I didn’t intend to present an argument i was essentially met with, “probably because you can’t!” You have some growing up to do.
Posted on 6/11/19 at 8:47 pm to DeathValley85
LTC mooning
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