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Posted on 10/21/16 at 6:57 am to
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54755 posts
Posted on 10/21/16 at 6:57 am to
It's always difficult unless the person is a total count...but the older I get the more convinced I become that 75% of the gen pop is marginally to completely unemployable for myriad reasons...but the economy needs bodies!
Posted by Blue Velvet
Apple butter toast is nice
Member since Nov 2009
20112 posts
Posted on 10/21/16 at 7:02 am to
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For those of you who have to make employment decisions, does it ever get any easier?
I've had to let a couple dozen people go over the last 3 years. It's still just as hard for some cases; maybe like the kid in your example. But most of the time, it becomes easier as you learn what to say, how to handle it, better understand why you're doing it, etc. My issue was that I began to notice trends in the character of the people I was letting go---which means I need to better learn how to prevent certain types of people from getting to the point that I have to let them go. What could you have done to make that kid step up and reach his potential OR what do you need to look for in candidates to make sure you don't hire another one of those kids again? Because there may be another person like him in the future and you'll have to fire them too if you don't weed them out in advance or help them once they're in.
Posted by Will Cover
Davidson, NC
Member since Mar 2007
40133 posts
Posted on 10/21/16 at 10:17 am to
Firing an employee should never come as a surprise (assuming it is performance related).

As a supervisor, it is your responsibility to review their performance along the way and not wait until you are mandated to do it.

Much easier to correct unwanted behaviors and performance early than wait until it's too late.

"If you're not getting better, you're getting worse."
Posted by southernelite
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2009
53562 posts
Posted on 10/21/16 at 11:07 am to
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500K a year yet aren't real concerned with paying the taxes they owe


Blows my mind
Posted by bnb9433
Member since Jan 2015
14785 posts
Posted on 10/21/16 at 12:49 pm to
never gets easier. one of the hardest things ive done
This post was edited on 10/21/16 at 12:52 pm
Posted by Azazello
Member since Sep 2011
3231 posts
Posted on 10/21/16 at 12:59 pm to
I had to let someone go last week - not the best experience for sure.

I worked with him for over 6 months but he just never improved. I was relieved to end it but it is never easy - the guy has two kids at home.

Posted by Murray
Member since Aug 2008
14826 posts
Posted on 10/21/16 at 2:47 pm to
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I spent a ton of time training him, teaching him, along with other people helping. He just couldn't swing it. His aptitude and his skills just weren't a match, and it was starting to hold the group back.


This is usually the case when I have to fire someone, and it makes much easier to separate personal from business.
Posted by Murray
Member since Aug 2008
14826 posts
Posted on 10/21/16 at 2:52 pm to
quote:

Firing an employee should never come as a surprise (assuming it is performance related).

As a supervisor, it is your responsibility to review their performance along the way and not wait until you are mandated to do it.

Much easier to correct unwanted behaviors and performance early than wait until it's too late.

"If you're not getting better, you're getting worse."




So many "managers" don't understand this at all. It's not hard to fire them because you've given them ample opportunity to get better.

If you feel bad, maybe you dropped the ball in that area.
Posted by boatless2
Member since Mar 2015
612 posts
Posted on 10/22/16 at 3:35 am to
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500K a year yet aren't real concerned with paying the taxes they owe


somebody explain
Posted by Murray
Member since Aug 2008
14826 posts
Posted on 10/22/16 at 6:13 am to
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500K a year yet aren't real concerned with paying the taxes they owe



quote:

somebody explain




33%
$190,150 to $413,350 Single
$231,450 to $413,350 Married Joint
$210,800 to $413,350 Head of Household

35%
$413,350 to $415,050 Single
$413,350 to $466,950 Married Joint
$413,350 to $441,000 Head of Household

39.6%
$415,050+ Single
$466,950+ Married Joint
$441,000+ Head of Household


Lots of people out there that make stupid money that don't really care about seeing their tax bill much less their new estimates.
Posted by southernelite
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2009
53562 posts
Posted on 10/22/16 at 9:00 am to
Those same people are probably still living paycheck to paycheck
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