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Latest Fed DSGE model says…

Posted on 6/24/22 at 6:26 pm
Posted by Realityintheface
Member since May 2022
1784 posts
Posted on 6/24/22 at 6:26 pm
Latest Fed DSGE model says 80% chance of a recession with negative DGP growth starting from end of July 2022 through 2023.

Latest report

My take? We are not at the bottom by a long shot.

CPI report July 13 pre-market release. Even if we are down a bit or equal, I believe the Fed will still raise .75 and the markets will go down. Higher and 1 is on the table for sure and the markets will swoon. No way inflation is a lot lower. No way. So, I see no upside potential because of rising Fed rates until inflation is under control as per Powell.

“”Fed Chairman Jerome Powell said Wednesday that the central bank is "strongly committed" to bringing down inflation and can do so with its monetary policy tools.
That means higher interest rates until "compelling evidence" emerges that inflation is coming down.””

Strongly committed means he will raise them even if it hurts the markets.

Compelling evidence means more than just 1 data point that inflation is trending down. So even IF the July 13 report is lower, he will still go .75 IMO.

Sure your gonna have bear market rallies but you will be fighting the Fed. Don’t fight the Fed.

The average bear is around 34%. Thats S&P500 around 3150. We are at 3900.

Also the Shiller PE is about 29. The mean is about 17.

So…..
DSGE model doesn’t look good.
Inflation high.
Fed raising rates.
Shiller PE high.
Oil still above $100 and no pivot by Biden (yet).
Ukraine war with no end in sight and the politics/policies behind that.
Federal and Global debt in outer space.
US consumer debt out of control.

Sorry. Just don’t see the market trending up until inflation is under control. I’m not a buyer yet because no telling how ugly it could get. 34% down is just the average mind you.

Buy consumer staples because everyone has to eat.

And I am not a doom and gloom investor. I would love for the market to smoothly march upwards.


Posted by j1897
Member since Nov 2011
4314 posts
Posted on 6/24/22 at 7:34 pm to
I don't think you are reading that right. December 22, very slight chance of recession. Mar 23 is when it's a higher chance, but even then like 60% or so.
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
42055 posts
Posted on 6/24/22 at 8:08 pm to
quote:

CPI report July 13 pre-market release


Going to be hot
Posted by Realityintheface
Member since May 2022
1784 posts
Posted on 6/24/22 at 8:44 pm to
“ According to the model, the probability of a soft landing—defined as four-quarter GDP growth staying positive over the next ten quarters—is only about 10 percent. Conversely, the chances of a hard landing—defined to include at least one quarter in the next ten in which four-quarter GDP growth dips below -1 percent, as occurred during the 1990 recession—are about 80 percent.”

Analysis
Posted by Realityintheface
Member since May 2022
1784 posts
Posted on 6/24/22 at 8:48 pm to
Oh and when I said buy consumer staples, I meant a consumer staple index fund/ETF. Not canned good doomsday prepping.
Posted by SonicAndBareKnuckles
Member since Jun 2018
1859 posts
Posted on 6/24/22 at 11:17 pm to
quote:

Oil still above $100 and no pivot by Biden (yet).


Deprivation is the object of deprivation, do you understand me?
Posted by TAFP
Member since Jan 2021
72 posts
Posted on 6/24/22 at 11:26 pm to
Yeah that’s the conventional wisdom but I’ve been buying. I think this market is higher by year end. I think the market can withstand the higher rates. To me the geopolitical concerns are more problematic than the rate hikes. I do think housing contracts though. If it continues to appear that the republicans take back the house and possibly the senate the market will welcome the gridlock. Just my opinion.
Posted by j1897
Member since Nov 2011
4314 posts
Posted on 6/25/22 at 6:42 am to
Right but thats an 80 percent chance of a single quarter of gdp contraction. That isn't necessarily a recession. They've oddly worded that.
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