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re: Does anyone here know anything about unemployment for the self employed?

Posted on 4/13/20 at 9:31 am to
Posted by tigersint
Lafayette
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 4/13/20 at 9:31 am to
I may put the same.

Just found out that my hopeful soon job may not happen too, so I don't want this to start eating into my savings.
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
37675 posts
Posted on 4/13/20 at 9:32 am to
You should also file for a PPP loan as self-employed. I believe you can get up to a $10k loan but I'm not well versed on that aspect of the loan as we are an S Corp and W-2.
Posted by tigersint
Lafayette
Member since Nov 2012
3562 posts
Posted on 4/13/20 at 9:33 am to
I am 1099, Own an LLC but have it taxed as an S Corp.

I was hearing about those loans up to 10K. Is that a grant that you do not have to pay back or a loan that you will have to pay back?
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
37675 posts
Posted on 4/13/20 at 9:43 am to
If you apply for the EIDL online SBA Disaster Loan Site you can apply for a grant of up to $10000. Fill out the banking information at the end of the application for the grant. The grant does NOT have to be paid back and you can receive it whether you receive an EIDL loan or not.

The PPP loan is applied for through your bank. The big banks are bogged down. If you'd like send me an email at bill@ccillcva.com and I can refer you to a small bank in Texas that will help with your PPP loan.

The PPP loan is 2.5 times payroll plus health insurnance and retirement benefits paid. This loan can be 100% forgiven if the money is used for the proper purposes and the use of the funds is properly documented. If a portion of the loan is not forgiven the interest rate is 1% with a 2 year term. The first 6 months of payments are deferred but interest continues to accrue. I've seen reports that the SBA covers the first 6 months of principle and interest payments but I do not know that to be gospel.
This post was edited on 4/13/20 at 9:44 am
Posted by gsvar2004
Member since Nov 2007
8448 posts
Posted on 4/13/20 at 9:47 am to
For self employed it’s (net profit / 12 )x 2.5= ppp amount

That’s what I was told and that’s what I filed for.
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
37675 posts
Posted on 4/13/20 at 9:48 am to
Thank you for the clarification.
Posted by tigersint
Lafayette
Member since Nov 2012
3562 posts
Posted on 4/13/20 at 10:59 am to
So can you use this grant money for personal use until a new job is found or until work begins with my company again, or is this money that should be used to keep your business afloat?

Because my LLC is just used for me to do my work services so it does not cost anything to run the business. But I now do not have any form of personal income coming in for my personal bills, gas, groceries, etc and I do not want to have to start draining my savings.
Posted by Fat Bastard
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Posted on 4/13/20 at 11:47 am to
We may not even qualify for that PPP loan. I am in same boat. was a SP/1099 last few years. Just re -started my corporation taxed as an S-corp. zero employees. I invoice clients and get paid via 1099. I guess you can always check with a bank and see. Maybe you can claim the obvious, no more invoicing due to corona? All i could apply for with EIDL was possible loss of rents, expenses, etc since i am a LL. PPP is a different ballgame.
This post was edited on 4/13/20 at 11:49 am
Posted by Fat Bastard
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Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 4/13/20 at 12:06 pm to
there is also a solo401k loan if you have this QRP.

Solo 401(k) Plan Loans


Increased 401(k) plan loan from $50,000 to $100,000 –
Need access to a 401(k) plan with a loan option
No requirement to limit the loan to 50% of account balance
Need to show any of the following:
an individual who is diagnosed with SRS-COV-2 or COVID-19 by a test approved by the CDC
whose spouse or dependent is diagnosed with one of the two diseases
a participant or business owner who experiences adverse financial consequences as a result of being quarantined, furloughed, having reduced hours or cannot work due to unavailability of child care
Existing 401(k) plan loan payments due 3/25/20 to 12/31/20 delayed one year
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
37675 posts
Posted on 4/13/20 at 1:22 pm to
quote:

So can you use this grant money for personal use until a new job is found or until work begins with my company again, or is this money that should be used to keep your business afloat?


Personal use. No.

However, you can use it to pay yourself as you normally do. However again. If you get a PPP loan you cannot use the EIDL loan in the same pay periods as the PPP loans are used.

Confused? so is everyone else.
Posted by lsu5803tiger
Democratic Republic of the Congo
Member since Feb 2006
1730 posts
Posted on 4/13/20 at 5:58 pm to
I received the application from my bank for the PPP loan. I file as an S-Corp, only myself as an employee. The loan amount is determined by my gross from my 1099 or what I show what my salary is for my taxes? If it’s the latter, I might be better off just getting unemployment.
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