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re: Bought a House in 2010

Posted on 2/8/11 at 3:19 pm to
Posted by Martavius
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 2/8/11 at 3:19 pm to
Wow, you really are ignorant about the true value of your home. Good luck.
Posted by Springlake Tiger
Uptown
Member since Aug 2006
15531 posts
Posted on 2/8/11 at 3:21 pm to
no, i am just stupid and much less intelligent than you.
Posted by TortiousTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2007
12668 posts
Posted on 2/8/11 at 3:22 pm to
why you wanna move brah
Posted by Springlake Tiger
Uptown
Member since Aug 2006
15531 posts
Posted on 2/8/11 at 3:25 pm to
been watching too much "Flip this House"
Posted by Martavius
Member since Nov 2005
16019 posts
Posted on 2/8/11 at 3:27 pm to
Ignorance is not the same as intellect so don't be so hard on yourself.
Posted by DoubleDeuce
Lafayette
Member since Sep 2006
832 posts
Posted on 2/8/11 at 3:53 pm to
You really need to take a real estate investing course.

Even if you sell this house for $420k you profit nowhere near $50k. You put $20k in renovating.

That brings you now down to $30k. I'm going to assume you have a mortgage and it's a 30 year note. So if you got a descent deal in 2010 around 4.75% then you will pay roughly $23k in interest by the end of 2011.

So now you're $7k up. You still haven't paid any property taxes or insurance. If you do sell before the 2 year cut off your subject to capital gains tax.

I'm going to venture to say that by the time it's all said and done you won't "really" make any money.

I've seen tons of people get in way over their heads trying to flip houses. They say "I bought it for X and sold it at Y, I made a ton of money."

And I say "Did you finance that transaction? Did you use an agent to sell it? Did you calculate the takes you paid on the property? How about capital gains?"
Posted by Tiger JJ
Member since Aug 2010
545 posts
Posted on 2/8/11 at 4:12 pm to
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That brings you now down to $30k. I'm going to assume you have a mortgage and it's a 30 year note. So if you got a descent deal in 2010 around 4.75% then you will pay roughly $23k in interest by the end of 2011.


In fairness if he lived there, then you shouldn't necessarily count this.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
109519 posts
Posted on 2/8/11 at 4:21 pm to
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There are submarkets within Uptown
This is true. Blanket internet stats don't tell one everything about the New Orleans RE market. I'm curious about the house now. Any chance you'll link me to a listing? Give me your email?
Posted by Martavius
Member since Nov 2005
16019 posts
Posted on 2/8/11 at 5:12 pm to
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This is true. Blanket internet stats don't tell one everything about the New Orleans RE market.

So if the overall uptown market is down 2%, you're saying it's possible there are smaller areas within this market that have seen double digit appreciation? That would have to mean that other "sub areas" would have to be down 12%-15%. I find these types of swings highly unlikely within what is already considered a sub market.

And it doesn't matter if the house was going to be listed for $500k and he bought it for $370k before it hit the market. The market set that home's fair value at $370k at the time of the transaction.
Posted by Things and stuff
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2010
3579 posts
Posted on 2/8/11 at 5:43 pm to
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In fairness if he lived there, then you shouldn't necessarily count this.



+1. Or atleast count it at a discounted rate. He had to live SOMEWHERE. Maybe not in a $370k mortgage payment situation, but still, vs. the opportunity costs of renting you could probably just forget about the interest paid.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
109519 posts
Posted on 2/8/11 at 6:48 pm to
Oh, I'm not vouching for his particular valuations, just saying that there's a lot of wildcards in place in the New Orleans housing market that can create some skewed differences within certain broad areas such as "uptown." Houses which have been sitting untouched and still damaged since Katrina (of which there are still good numbers "uptown"), and which weren't in any sort of desirable area to begin with are really a completely different "market" than houses in proximity to say Audubon Park, which were completely unscathed and in really good condition. I wouldn't be shocked at all to see the sort of swing you're talking about between those two "sub areas."
Posted by Drop4Loss
Birds Eye Of Deaf Valley
Member since Oct 2007
3967 posts
Posted on 2/8/11 at 9:12 pm to
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The market set that home's fair value at $370k at the time of the transaction.


All depends if the seller was knowledgable and not under duress, financial or otherwise to sell....
Posted by Martavius
Member since Nov 2005
16019 posts
Posted on 2/9/11 at 8:01 am to
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All depends if the seller was knowledgable and not under duress, financial or otherwise to sell....

One out of every 3 sellers these days is under some sort of duress. Are you trying to tell me those prices don't have any affect on everyone else?
Posted by Drop4Loss
Birds Eye Of Deaf Valley
Member since Oct 2007
3967 posts
Posted on 2/9/11 at 8:08 am to
Naw Im just saying if all have been selling for say $200,000 and all are similar in a given S/D, if there is a say divorce deal and they sell for $180,000 cause they need the cash NOW, that house may have a market value of $200,000.
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