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re: Wonder if this is going to happen again.......
Posted on 11/1/13 at 10:39 am to Tuscaloosa
Posted on 11/1/13 at 10:39 am to Tuscaloosa
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Play wouldn't have mattered. LSU got throttled in every facet of that game. They were lucky to escape with a 9 point loss.
Kind of hard to say LSU was throttled when there was a lead change in the 4th quarter on Jones' long screen pass.
2009 was a bad year for SEC officiating, and all of the questionable calls went in favor of the higher ranked team.
Examples:
AJ Green's celebration call-- #14 UGA vs #4 LSU
The no-call on Riley Cooper's tug on Hawkin's Jersey-- #4 LSU vs #1 Florida
The no-call on Cody removing his helmet--Unranked Tennessee vs #1 Alabama
The OPs examples -- #9 LSU vs. #3 Alabama
All of those calls had a potential effect on the final outcome. To be honest, calling Cody's, though justified by the rule, would have been ticky-tack, but the call on Green was also ticky-tack (I still haven't seen anything on video that justifies that Green call--it was so bad, they had a make-up call on Scott's TD).
SEC officiating has gotten better since then, but that's not saying much.
GEAUX TIGERS
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Posted on 11/1/13 at 11:21 am to LSU4BT
Christ 
Posted on 11/1/13 at 12:23 pm to Thorny
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Kind of hard to say LSU was throttled when there was a lead change in the 4th quarter on Jones' long screen pass.
Not very hard to say at all. Bama outgained LSU 452 to 253. Had 24 first downs to LSU's 13. Averaged 6.3 yards per play, and had 5 minutes more time of possession. Mark Ingram ran for 144 yards and averaged 6.5 yards per carry.
This is a classic case of the Scapegoat Theory. That blown interception call was the scapegoat that has allowed LSU fans to cope with that loss.
This post was edited on 11/1/13 at 12:25 pm
Posted on 11/1/13 at 12:26 pm to Thorny
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The no-call on Cody removing his helmet--Unranked Tennessee vs #1 Alabama
And this wouldn't have mattered. Cody removed his helmet after the ball had been kicked, which means it was following a change of possession. Had there been a flag thrown, it wouldn't have mattered because time had already expired and it would have been Alabama's football.
Posted on 11/1/13 at 12:42 pm to Tuscaloosa
Of course you'll have more yards, given more opportunities.
Wonder what Tuscaloosa would say if the clip s called on Julio's long TD run, or if LSU doesn't have to punt on the first drive as the line judge backs the spot up 2 yards. Or if JJ isn't reeling from the second quarter hit. Or if Bama punts like they should have with 6 minutes left.
The facts spoke for themselves.
Bama cheated once again, had the refs in their back pocket, once again. The media went crazy on this back then, especially after what happened with UF and Arkansas.And Bama is yet again in the process of getting caught cheating, with Ohio State and USC staring at the NCAA, waiting to
see what Bama gets or if they have to sue them.
Enjoy it while u can.
We'll see what happens.
Wonder what Tuscaloosa would say if the clip s called on Julio's long TD run, or if LSU doesn't have to punt on the first drive as the line judge backs the spot up 2 yards. Or if JJ isn't reeling from the second quarter hit. Or if Bama punts like they should have with 6 minutes left.
The facts spoke for themselves.
Bama cheated once again, had the refs in their back pocket, once again. The media went crazy on this back then, especially after what happened with UF and Arkansas.And Bama is yet again in the process of getting caught cheating, with Ohio State and USC staring at the NCAA, waiting to
see what Bama gets or if they have to sue them.
Enjoy it while u can.
We'll see what happens.
Posted on 11/1/13 at 1:23 pm to LSU4BT
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Bama cheated once again, had the refs in their back pocket, once again. The media went crazy on this back then, especially after what happened with UF and Arkansas.And Bama is yet again in the process of getting caught cheating, with Ohio State and USC staring at the NCAA, waiting to
see what Bama gets or if they have to sue them.
Enjoy it while u can.
We'll see what happens
Wait... You serious?
This post was edited on 11/1/13 at 1:25 pm
Posted on 11/1/13 at 1:29 pm to Tuscaloosa
After all, you needed an ex-LSU coach to be a champ again, right?
I fully expect to beat Bama next week. after all, we usually do win there.
You guy will be looking up again soon enough.
I fully expect to beat Bama next week. after all, we usually do win there.
You guy will be looking up again soon enough.
Posted on 11/1/13 at 1:38 pm to LSU4BT
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After all, you needed an ex-LSU coach to be a champ again, right?
Whatever you say, pal.
This post was edited on 11/1/13 at 1:39 pm
Posted on 11/1/13 at 1:42 pm to LSU4BT
This thread is full of narcissism.
Posted on 11/1/13 at 2:07 pm to biglego
I've often said that if LSU had not been undefeated in the GOTC, Reid's INT would not have been called.
Posted on 11/1/13 at 2:33 pm to Tuscaloosa
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And this wouldn't have mattered. Cody removed his helmet after the ball had been kicked, which means it was following a change of possession. Had there been a flag thrown, it wouldn't have mattered because time had already expired and it would have been Alabama's football.
Yes, but was the play blown dead yet? Because if it wasn't, (and I don't think any conclusive evidence has been shown either way), then it would have been a defensive penalty, and Tennessee would have been granted an untimed down.
It would have been a really ticky-tack foul, but as I said, the one called on AJ Green that benefitted LSU was ticky-tack as well.
Which reinforces my point that all of the many controversial calls in 2009 benefitted the higher ranked team. The SEC officials were getting blistered all year about the crappy calls.
GEAUX TIGERS
Posted on 11/1/13 at 2:58 pm to biglego
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I don't know if its a conspiracy
Of course it is, the money is too large not to try and have one of your teams from the conference in the BCS-NC game. All conferences will do their best to protect the team mostly likely to go. Watch Oregon, Fla St. "depending on the winner of the Fla St/Mia game" & Ohio St get calls if games are close. Unfortunately it is just the nature of the beast.
Posted on 11/1/13 at 2:59 pm to LSU4BT
Zero chance of LSU getting any call this year. For the sec office it's Bama or bust
Posted on 11/1/13 at 3:39 pm to LSU4BT
Well, it's a very similar season to 2009 for both teams. So....I'm thinking the refs protect BAMA if the game is close
Posted on 11/1/13 at 4:01 pm to TigerB8
Even though LSU is generally an elite team, you wont ever be truly elite until your fan base ditches the little sister mentality as displayed in this thread. Bitching about the officiating before the game is even played is pretty lame. Ya'll sound like Auburn fans.
Posted on 11/1/13 at 4:04 pm to bigosports
Flop city dude.
Posted on 11/1/13 at 4:05 pm to Tuscaloosa
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Not very hard to say at all. In 2012, Bama undergained LSU 435 to 331. Had 18 first downs to LSU's 22. And had 19 minutes less time of possession. Mett through for 298, and Hill ran for 107.
Bama did lead in one stat though. They had 1 penalty for 15. We had 7 (use your other hand to get there) - 7, I said, for 51.
See how this works? Sometimes, the team that statistically dominates doesn't win. In 09, had LSU won the game, it would have been a game they shouldn't have won, much the same as Bama winning in 2012.
The point of the thread though, is a question. We wonder if the ref's will screw us. No matter what kind of stats you (or I for that matter) throw out there, one thing remains......
Patrick Peterson intercepted a football, the cameramen caught that fact, and officials decided to overlook the fact that they'd made the wrong call on the field. And no one can explain why that is.
Statistically, it doesn't look like it would have mattered. But we'll never know.
All that said, when one team is repeatedly on the "bad end" of no calls and bad calls, and another team is constantly on the "good end", it's no longer whining and paranoia. It's just stating a fact.
1 for 15 to 7 for 51? Really?
Posted on 11/1/13 at 5:04 pm to Tuscaloosa
I agree . LSU was not the better team that day or year. Officiating is a crime though when no calls are made on a program like Bama in high visibility matchups. There has been too many mistakes not to have some form of human bias.
That is not an excuse but rather a glaring anomaly.
That is not an excuse but rather a glaring anomaly.
Posted on 11/1/13 at 6:28 pm to TigerTreyjpg
I'm all in favor of refs being drawn from a nationwide pool rather than a conference pool. Do away with conferences having their own refs.
Posted on 11/1/13 at 6:50 pm to Mxylplyx
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Even though LSU is generally an elite team, you wont ever be truly elite until your fan base ditches the little sister mentality as displayed in this thread. Bitching about the officiating before the game is even played is pretty lame. Ya'll sound like Auburn fans.
I can't even begin to tell you how precisely right you are. It's fricking pathetic. Maybe even worse than Auburn fans.
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