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re: Will LSU Baseball have a star player next season?

Posted on 6/28/24 at 10:54 am to
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Posted on 6/28/24 at 10:54 am to
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I stated it early in the post. Before names were mentioned.



Interesting you ignored the Milam to Duplantis comparison, why?

Milam's first season he was a freshman all american, all-SEC tournament team, all-regional tournament team here. He hit .386 with 3 doubles and 4 home runs in 10 postseason games.

Direct comparison to Duplantis' BEST season after 4 years (his senior year

Milam hit .326/.415/.516 with a .931 OPS
Duplantis hit .324/.376/.505 with a .881 OPS his senior season

So with Duplantis having 4 seasons to pick the absolute best season for, Milam was better. Yet, Duplantis is a star player for you and Milam isnt capable of being one despite technically having a better season year 1 than Duplantis ever had over 4 years here? I think we call that you having an agenda here.
This post was edited on 6/28/24 at 10:56 am
Posted by burreauxxx
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Posted on 6/28/24 at 10:55 am to
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Tanks was a pretty high end 3rd baseman this season if you didnt pay close attention there.


I agree with you. Unfortunately most pro scouts don’t if you’ve paid attention
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Posted on 6/28/24 at 10:58 am to
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I agree with you. Unfortunately most pro scouts don’t if you’ve paid attention



What solidified him in the 1st round for this draft was the fact he played a very good 3rd base this season SHOWING scouts he's not just a DH who swings at everything (And usually makes contact, at least).

Frankly his season at the plate this year was the worst he's had overall in 3 years of college. If he didnt show he could play 3B this season, they might have easily dropped him out the 1st round. Showing scouts he HAS true position only helped offset the fact his year at the plate wasnt as good as what he did in the past.
This post was edited on 6/28/24 at 11:00 am
Posted by TigerBait2008
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Posted on 6/28/24 at 10:59 am to
Still showing your stupidity I see.
Posted by burreauxxx
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Posted on 6/28/24 at 10:59 am to
Dude he is LSU’s all time hits leader and always batted in the heart of the order

Milan got hot late batting in the 7-hole on an average offense. He also got hot against average arms when everyone pitched off in the SEC tourney and against Wofford et al
This post was edited on 6/28/24 at 11:00 am
Posted by burreauxxx
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Posted on 6/28/24 at 11:01 am to
That’s just not what pro scouts are saying but you seem to be in the wrong profession I’m guessing
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Posted on 6/28/24 at 11:10 am to
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Dude he is LSU’s all time hits leader and always batted in the heart of the order



Yet once again, Milam's very first season here he was named freshman all-american and had abetter season at the plate than ANY season Duplantis had after 4 years here.

Duplantis is a "star" in your eyes yet Milam isnt capable of being one. Do you see the complete ridiculousness there in your assessment. A FRESHMAN all-american who had a better season at the plate than any one of your 4 seasons for your self described "star" player here cant be a "Star" player by comparison.

By the way, Milam started 29 games at 1-6 in the order, as the season went along he moved up. The last 3 games of the entire season he hit from the 2-hole. As if that really makes some gigantic difference, the fact is his season this year was better than any of the 4 seasons of your self-described "star" player here yet you continue to act like Milam is a nobody ".300 hitting 7-holer"
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Posted on 6/28/24 at 11:12 am to
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That’s just not what pro scouts are saying but you seem to be in the wrong profession I’m guessing



First let's not ever pretend you're a "scout" or know anything of the sort. You seemed to have zero idea Dreiling is considered a high draft pick this season probably being offer a million or even more to sign a pro contract.

Second anyone who is everyone (including scouts) saw Tanks improve a ton this year at 3B and it most certainly helped his draft stock because we know his year at the plate certainly didnt as it was his worst in 3 years in college. Being able to play 3B and even a pretty good 3B helped him a ton in this draft considering his dropoff at the plate this season.
This post was edited on 6/28/24 at 11:13 am
Posted by PP7 for heisman
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Posted on 6/28/24 at 11:30 am to
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My opinion is that star players show themselves as freshmen in many cases. You see the tools and flashes of production.
So Griffin Herring, the all american, doesn't count as a star Jay has gotten and developed?

Kade Anderson, a guy with great stuff who could be in our weekend rotation and dominate next year isn't a star because he couldn't supplant two other all americans in the weekend rotation?
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Milam could be a Nick Madrigal type. He could also be a Cole Freeman type
So is celing is the 4th overall pick in the draft and his floor is a 4th round pick? Yeah that's a star. Also, Milam put up better numbers than Madrigal did as a freshman playing in a much harder league surrounded with less talent. The only thing Milam has in common with Freeman and Madrigal is his height. He put up Madrigal's career homerun total in his freshman year and had more as a freshman than Freeman did in 4 years of college baseball.

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Larson seems to have a solid approach at the plate but his power needs to come and his other tools running and in the field are very average.
Larson (also picked out of the backwoods of Kansas, according to your interpretation) had very similar numbers to Dreilling as a freshman in the SEC. Why does he not count as a star? Is it because, I don't know, you're comparing a DES in Dreiling to freshman Larson who really only got playing time once we hit the meat of the SEC schedule?

Chase Shores dominated as a freshman and then got Tommy John. We've played tons of older guys in '24. Just because a guy isn't Dylan Crews doesn't mean he's not a star. It's very clear you don't know what you're talking about.
Posted by PP7 for heisman
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Posted on 6/28/24 at 11:31 am to
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Sounds like you’re describing Tommy Tanks.

Tommy White was the best defensive third baseman in the SEC this year.
Posted by burreauxxx
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 6/28/24 at 12:27 pm to
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Milam isnt capable of being one.


Who said this? My thread is very clear
Posted by burreauxxx
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 6/28/24 at 12:29 pm to
Many scouts see Tanks as a 1B. That’s just a fact

Not my opinion; it’s the overwhelming pro scout outlook which is why his stock has dropped
Posted by Adam4848
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Posted on 6/28/24 at 12:31 pm to
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burreauxxx


Why are all of your baseball takes this bad? I always tell myself you'll get one right but you continue to amaze me.
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Posted on 6/28/24 at 12:33 pm to
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Who said this? My thread is very clear



From the very first moment someone mentioned Milam you put him down saying "but .300 hitter from 7-hole", you've had an agenda against Milam the entire thread.

Milam hit .326 his first year here with an OPS in excess of .900. He also was not stuck in the bottom of the order all season like you keep trying to say. The very last 3 games of this season he hit 2nd in the order. He was an ALL-AMERICAN this literal last season. You went on to talk about star players here and mentioned Duplantis. Milam's first and only season so far was better than ANY of Duplantis' seasons at the plate here....yet you still have trouble admitting Milam could be a star player, why? Explain for people like me who see a clear contradiction in naming someone like Duplantis a star player here, but yet you cant come around to admitting Milam could be one as well who already had a better season than Duplantis ever did in 4 years here.
This post was edited on 6/28/24 at 12:35 pm
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Posted on 6/28/24 at 12:36 pm to
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Many scouts see Tanks as a 1B. That’s just a fact



BEFORE this season, sure. Again, Tanks played a high level 3rd base all season long this year. This is giving scouts what they wanted to see from him defensively so he's not pegged as some 1b/2b/DH low value defensive guy at the next level.

Thats not the case any more and a big reason why his draft stock didnt actually go down despite performing the worst he has at the plate in 3 seasons.
This post was edited on 6/28/24 at 12:37 pm
Posted by burreauxxx
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 6/28/24 at 12:36 pm to
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Griffin Herring, the all american, doesn't count as a star Jay has gotten and developed?


Like Skenes, I’ll give the pitching coaches the credit. Jay doesn’t work with pitchers.

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So is celing is the 4th overall pick in the draft and his floor is a 4th round pick?


I clearly said post-LSU career was not part of this discussion. It’s the level you play at and production in college. LSU doesn’t earn extra victories when Skenes goes 1-1 or throws a 2-hitter in the Majors

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Why does he not count as a star?


Stop me if I’m again repeating myself for you:
Dreiling is a star. Larsen is not. Maybe he will be. Are you putting him on that pedestal now? Because that was the liter question in thread subject line. Go ahead and say he is if that’s your position.
Posted by burreauxxx
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 6/28/24 at 12:38 pm to
Pro scouts mostly believe he has little to no positional value which is why he’s dropped on draft boards. Argue with them not me
This post was edited on 6/28/24 at 12:38 pm
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 6/28/24 at 12:38 pm to
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Like Skenes, I’ll give the pitching coaches the credit. Jay doesn’t work with pitchers.





So you're eliminating half of every team because you think Jay never has any interaction with pitchers...yet go on to name all the players, pitchers and position players for Mainieri. Can you be any more obvious as to having an agenda?

Why does Mainieri get credit for pitchers and position players but Jay cant get any credit for pitchers?
This post was edited on 6/28/24 at 12:39 pm
Posted by burreauxxx
Member since Dec 2019
5542 posts
Posted on 6/28/24 at 12:39 pm to
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Why are all of your baseball takes this bad?


This is super ironic coming from you. We have receipts
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Member since Oct 2007
71588 posts
Posted on 6/28/24 at 12:40 pm to
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Pro scouts mostly believe he has little to no positional value which is why he’s dropped on draft boards. Argue with them not me



Dude this was the case BEFORE the seaosn, not AFTER the season. Scouts know he can play 3B well now. You cant literally ignore the entire season that just happened, they took notice of it too. They arent blind. You are speaking out your arse
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