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re: Will Jordan Jefferson be one of LSU great QBs?

Posted on 7/21/09 at 3:03 pm to
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 7/21/09 at 3:03 pm to
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here come the paragraphs, rather than a answer


Ah yea because I choose to explain reason rather than "Lee sucked"
Posted by BT
North La
Member since Aug 2008
9766 posts
Posted on 7/21/09 at 3:05 pm to
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you're putting words in people mouths as you so often do to spin your agenda again.


what exacty is my agenda??
feel free to share it b/c I wasnt aware that I had one... and as far as putting words in people's mouths,,, what i posted is a close as it comes to what you and like mided people such yourself believe whether you will admit it or not.
Serioulsy, id like to hear this agenda that I have.
Posted by King Mello
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2008
475 posts
Posted on 7/21/09 at 3:06 pm to
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Kinda like Bama last year huh? A good defense makes all the difference.

D was horrible all season last year once we entered SEC play, they did not lose confidence because of pick 6.

Defense had no clue what play was coming in and half the time on field they had 2 seperate plays called at same time.


i didnt say good, i said capable.. as in capable of not relinquishing 16 ints. and 7 pick 6's

you can say what you want about the D but the truth is they had absolutely no confidence out there last season up until the G-Tech game.. and the moment they did Jarrett Lee took it away with one throw of the ball, i mean you cant honestly expect a D to keep going on the field with that same swagger knowing if they do get a stop chances are it will be for nothing because Lee is gonna frick up again.. the Georgia and Florida games are the only 2 games i personally think shouldve cost Malveto their jobs, outside of those 2 the inefficiency of the offense is the primary reason why that D played as lackluster as it did
Posted by offdacorner
Member since Feb 2009
1853 posts
Posted on 7/21/09 at 3:09 pm to
Amazing--I've asked a simple question and certain people here would rather insult you than give an answer.

It's like asking, "Would you rather eat apple pie or cherry pie?"

"I would eat apple pie only because Les Miles says he likes apple pie. Fact of the matter is that I think apple pie is way overrated and a lot of these morons on this board like apple pie waaay too much for my liking. Now if Les Miles liked cherry pie, then I would rather eat cherry pie."


Or

"Why would I want to give you a simple answer to a simple question?" Yes I know my answer would have taken two words, either apple pie or cherry pie. But I'd rather type even more words in order to say that I've already stated which kind of pie I'd rather eat--just scroll through this 12 page thread and read what I said."



The fact that Jordan Jefferson will be starting at QB sure is a touchy subject with some people.
This post was edited on 7/21/09 at 3:12 pm
Posted by BT
North La
Member since Aug 2008
9766 posts
Posted on 7/21/09 at 3:10 pm to
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you can say what you want about the D but the truth is they had absolutely no confidence out there last season up until the G-Tech game




why, b/c a true freshman was starting his second game??.

I literally just lauged out loud.

Dude, thats your opinion, not our defenses.... you should learn the difference.
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161245 posts
Posted on 7/21/09 at 3:11 pm to
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i didnt say good, i said capable.. as in capable of not relinquishing 16 ints. and 7 pick 6's

you can say what you want about the D but the truth is they had absolutely no confidence out there last season up until the G-Tech game.. and the moment they did Jarrett Lee took it away with one throw of the ball, i mean you cant honestly expect a D to keep going on the field with that same swagger knowing if they do get a stop chances are it will be for nothing because Lee is gonna frick up again.. the Georgia and Florida games are the only 2 games i personally think shouldve cost Malveto their jobs, outside of those 2 the inefficiency of the offense is the primary reason why that D played as lackluster as it did


And I am telling you from players I know on defense that they were frustrated with play calling from Co-defensive coordinators. There were many games that they were getting 2 seperate plays sent down to them causing confusion.
Was defense frustrated with Lee, yea they were but put entire blame for last season on him is stupid. That is point I have been trying to hammer home. He threw 16 INT, look back at history of SEC Freshmen (True or Redshirt) who have started in SEC, they all throw INT.

If it was totally a QB thing, they would have showed up against Arkansas. They were not even prepared for that. So it was not purely a QB thing for the defense. It was a season long frustration on both offensive and defensive side of the ball. Players I know were frustrated with other players, they were frustrated with coaches, it was just a bad season.
Posted by King Mello
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2008
475 posts
Posted on 7/21/09 at 3:12 pm to
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why, b/c a true freshman was starting his second game??.

I literally just lauged out loud.

Dude, thats your opinion, not our defenses.... you should learn the difference.


point out one other game you saw the defense fly around the ball the way they did that game?.. its common knowledge that game was our best defensive performance of the season
This post was edited on 7/21/09 at 3:13 pm
Posted by Sammobile
Hollywood South
Member since Jan 2009
22412 posts
Posted on 7/21/09 at 3:12 pm to
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The fact that Jordan Jefferson will be starting at QB sure is a touchy subject with some people.

and this is what I don't undertand. Why is it a touchy subject? If JJ would have played like JL did last year i'd have no problem with better QB starting
Posted by BT
North La
Member since Aug 2008
9766 posts
Posted on 7/21/09 at 3:14 pm to
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offdacorner


get it right pal.. you asked a simple question and you didnt get the answer you wanted to hear.

You are one of those that's gonna cry like a little girl if JJ doesnt live up to the expecatations that you and many of these other assholes are putting on him.
Posted by offdacorner
Member since Feb 2009
1853 posts
Posted on 7/21/09 at 3:15 pm to
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and this is what I don't undertand. Why is it a touchy subject? If JJ would have played like JL did last year i'd have no problem with better QB starting



Exactly. I don't see the problem.

I mean, this thread isn't even about Jarret Lee but here you have people dropping F-bombs and insults--and for what?

Because many of LSU's fans feel good having JJ as the starting QB?

I mean--it's like personal to some people here.
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161245 posts
Posted on 7/21/09 at 3:15 pm to
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and this is what I don't undertand. Why is it a touchy subject? If JJ would have played like JL did last year i'd have no problem with better QB starting


IF and I stress IF JJ struggles LSU fans will want to put Shep in a position that he should not be in.

LSU fans as a whole do not want JL back in there, they would prefer Shep. I believe Shep would be more useful in a Harvin type role.

So LSU fans better be in church every sunday praying JJ performs to how some believe he will and that he stays healthy.
Posted by offdacorner
Member since Feb 2009
1853 posts
Posted on 7/21/09 at 3:16 pm to
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You are one of those that's gonna cry like a little girl if JJ doesnt live up to the expecatations that you and many of these other assholes are putting on him.


You are one angry dude.

Why does the subject of Jordan Jefferson upset you so much?
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161245 posts
Posted on 7/21/09 at 3:17 pm to
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offdacorner



I think LSU fans are expecting too much out of jefferson personally...

I think if he does not perform to some people's level that we will see Tiger Rant in meltdown mode this season.

Think about Flynn, LSU fans as a whole did not expect much out of him. Just to manage games and not turn the ball over.

With Jefferson people are saying All-SEC, All-American, Heisman, greatest LSU QB ever. I think its unreasonable for a guy who has yet to play even a half a season.
This post was edited on 7/21/09 at 3:19 pm
Posted by BT
North La
Member since Aug 2008
9766 posts
Posted on 7/21/09 at 3:18 pm to
nice dodge....
for the fourth time im not mad.
Posted by offdacorner
Member since Feb 2009
1853 posts
Posted on 7/21/09 at 3:20 pm to
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I think LSU fans are expecting too much out of jefferson personally... I think if he does not perform to some people's level that we will see Tiger Rant in meltdown mode this season.


Personally, I expect Jefferson to perform a lot like Matt Flynn. They are very similar QB's. I expect JJ to manage the game and not commit untold, inexplicable, unforced turnovers.

If JJ plays like Matt Flynn, which I have already seen him do, LSU has a bright future ahead.
Posted by BT
North La
Member since Aug 2008
9766 posts
Posted on 7/21/09 at 3:23 pm to
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Exactly. I don't see the problem.

I mean, this thread isn't even about Jarret Lee but here you have people dropping F-bombs and insults--and for what?

Because many of LSU's fans feel good having JJ as the starting QB?

I mean--it's like personal to some people here.


You sure do paint a nice pretty picture about how this post has gone... I also find it very convienient of you how you leave out the fact that while singing JJ's praisies a JL bashing is ussually not far behind.
Im pretty postitive thats where things get messed up...not people "feeling good to have JJ as the starting qb".. you can go sell that shite somewhere else.
Posted by King Mello
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2008
475 posts
Posted on 7/21/09 at 3:23 pm to
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With Jefferson people are saying All-SEC, All-American, Heisman, greatest LSU QB ever. I think its unreasonable for a guy who has yet to play even a half a season.


i've only seen this from a handful of people and when they do make these threads they get ridiculed to no end.. most have only said they hope he capitalizes on his performance in the Peach Bowl and shows the type of improvement he made throughout last season..
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161245 posts
Posted on 7/21/09 at 3:24 pm to
I am just going to have to agree to disagree on
quote:

If JJ plays like Matt Flynn, which I have already seen him do



He is a young QB, who attempts to do things with his feet when he believes play has broken down. He will take many sacks this season, and he will throw some INT. Any fan who expects neither to happen is foolish.

As long as LSU establishes a running game and defense resonds to Chavis 10 wins is not out of question. I would love to see him have a season similar to JR 05 season as a 2nd year player.
Posted by offdacorner
Member since Feb 2009
1853 posts
Posted on 7/21/09 at 3:25 pm to
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You sure do paint a nice pretty picture about how this post has gone... I also find it very convienient of you how you leave out the fact that while singing JJ's praisies a JL bashing is ussually not far behind. Im pretty postitive thats where things get messed up...not people "feeling good to have JJ as the starting qb".. you can go sell that shite somewhere else.


So you're saying that you entered a thread that, by its title, centered on the positives Jordan Jefferson brings to the LSU Tigers just to make sure that nothing negative was said about Jarrett Lee?

Man that's just weird.
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161245 posts
Posted on 7/21/09 at 3:25 pm to
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King Mello


read 2 pages ago, Toothpick mentioned JJ as all-sec/all-american.



many have predicted All-SEC for him.


Hell people are saying he is more talented than Pryor, Vince Young, Pat White, JR which no one knows because he hasnt played a full season.
This post was edited on 7/21/09 at 3:26 pm
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