Started By
Message

re: Will Jordan Jefferson be one of LSU great QBs?

Posted on 7/21/09 at 2:11 pm to
Posted by Toothpick
Member since Jan 2004
19468 posts
Posted on 7/21/09 at 2:11 pm to
quote:

others will point out that, had the defense not been so piss-poor, Crowton would've been in a better position to protect the quarterback position


Really, in my opinion JL’s lack of mobility and the SEC’s speed of the game had more to do with that than anything. In any event, when JJ took over, conspicuously he didn’t come close to matching JL’s interception rate or his pick six rate.
Posted by offdacorner
Member since Feb 2009
1853 posts
Posted on 7/21/09 at 2:14 pm to
quote:

Unfortuantly for many of you; but fortunatly for JL they dont use last season stats and games for this years football season....


Just curious--who do you think should be the starting QB at LSU this season?
Posted by BT
North La
Member since Aug 2008
9766 posts
Posted on 7/21/09 at 2:17 pm to
quote:

Just curious--who do you think should be the starting QB at LSU this season?

JJ.
And b/c LM has said that ...that's why..not b/c I think he was all world aftter his two starrts... if JL started vs I wouldnt be surposed, shocked, or disapointed.... make no mistake about it, I want us to win.. and if JJ gives us the best chance then great, if its shifts to JL then great as well.
Why cnat we all aree on that?
Posted by TheDoc
doc is no more
Member since Dec 2005
99297 posts
Posted on 7/21/09 at 2:20 pm to
quote:

just no reason to thorw a kid under the bus


who's throwing him under the bus?

is it too much for you to handle that i'm being blunt when I say I don't want to see jarrett lee out there again this season unless jefferson goes down?
Posted by offdacorner
Member since Feb 2009
1853 posts
Posted on 7/21/09 at 2:21 pm to
quote:

JJ. And b/c LM has said that ...that's why..not b/c I think he was all world aftter his two starrts... if JL started vs I wouldnt be surposed, shocked, or disapointed.... make no mistake about it, I want us to win.. and if JJ gives us the best chance then great, if its shifts to JL then great as well. Why cnat we all aree on that?


Let me rephrase the question:

If LSU's coaches had not yet named a starter, who would you want to see as the starting QB for the upcoming year?
Posted by TheDoc
doc is no more
Member since Dec 2005
99297 posts
Posted on 7/21/09 at 2:24 pm to
quote:

If LSU's coaches had not yet named a starter, who would you want to see as the starting QB for the upcoming year?


Posted by ATLTiger
#TreyBiletnikoffs
Member since Sep 2003
46103 posts
Posted on 7/21/09 at 2:24 pm to


what an awesome ad
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161245 posts
Posted on 7/21/09 at 2:33 pm to
Saddest part of this thread is people are bashing Lee...

The worst defense Lee faced was #35 against Mississippi State.

Jefferson played against #77 Arkansas those stats do not lie.

Jefferson had 16 INT and 7 Pick 6, bad yes, but look at the amount of INT other FRESHMEN true or redshirt have thrown in SEC. You will notice there is a similar trend there. If your too set that :last year is Lee's fault" then obviously you will not believe it, and you will think Lee had worst freshmen season ever.
Lee also threw for 13 touchdowns, and 1800 yards last season and led LSU to comeback wins against Troy, Auburn, and South Carolina (yes I know his INT hurt, but no different than Flynn 3 INT led to Bama lead in 07 that he came back and won)

Jefferson played well in first half against Arkansas and GT yet in second half against GT his coming out game he completed 5/13 for 22 yards. You can not deny in second half of both games it was poor. Yet he had a month to prepare for this game with a coach who was 3-0 and had blown out each team he faced. He played with a simplified playbook and it helped there was a running game. Jefferson has yet to put together a full game, he has yet to play with a full playbook and until he does he is more of a X factor.
This upcoming season he does not have to be All Aynthing, he just needs to play within himself and hand off to Scott/Williams.

You want to go through and compare a QB who played 2.5 games to one that played 10.5 games. Really in less since he did not take over starter role till after Auburn game. I am guessing those that are using statement "from what I saw" never sat in a locker room and had to break down film of teams. They do not exactly know what too look for, only in boxscore at end of game and believes that tells story.

QB position is not settled 2.5 games does not make anyone all-sec much less all-american.
JJ is going to struggled against the likes of Florida, Bama, Georgia, and Ole Miss again. He takes too many sacks and he has not magically become VY over night. He has talent but he is still a year away.
As I have said before many many many times, young quarterbacks do not perform well in SEC, they do not lead teams to SEC championships, history backs this claim up.

LSU will win next year behind a defense not a QB. If the defense steps up and becomes a force again LSU should win 10 games.


Posted by BT
North La
Member since Aug 2008
9766 posts
Posted on 7/21/09 at 2:38 pm to
quote:

is it too much for you to handle that i'm being blunt when I say I don't want to see jarrett lee out there again this season unless jefferson goes down?


not all... IMO its hilarious.
however everyone is entiltiled to his/her own opinion.
Posted by offdacorner
Member since Feb 2009
1853 posts
Posted on 7/21/09 at 2:41 pm to
quote:

The worst defense Lee faced was #35 against Mississippi State.

Jefferson played against #77 Arkansas those stats do not lie.

Jefferson had 16 INT and 7 Pick 6, bad yes, but look at the amount of INT other FRESHMEN true or redshirt have thrown in SEC. You will notice there is a similar trend there. If your too set that :last year is Lee's fault" then obviously you will not believe it, and you will think Lee had worst freshmen season ever.
Lee also threw for 13 touchdowns, and 1800 yards last season and led LSU to comeback wins against Troy, Auburn, and South Carolina (yes I know his INT hurt, but no different than Flynn 3 INT led to Bama lead in 07 that he came back and won)

Jefferson played well in first half against Arkansas and GT yet in second half against GT his coming out game he completed 5/13 for 22 yards. You can not deny in second half of both games it was poor. Yet he had a month to prepare for this game with a coach who was 3-0 and had blown out each team he faced. He played with a simplified playbook and it helped there was a running game. Jefferson has yet to put together a full game, he has yet to play with a full playbook and until he does he is more of a X factor.
This upcoming season he does not have to be All Aynthing, he just needs to play within himself and hand off to Scott/Williams.

You want to go through and compare a QB who played 2.5 games to one that played 10.5 games. Really in less since he did not take over starter role till after Auburn game. I am guessing those that are using statement "from what I saw" never sat in a locker room and had to break down film of teams. They do not exactly know what too look for, only in boxscore at end of game and believes that tells story.

QB position is not settled 2.5 games does not make anyone all-sec much less all-american.
JJ is going to struggled against the likes of Florida, Bama, Georgia, and Ole Miss again. He takes too many sacks and he has not magically become VY over night. He has talent but he is still a year away.
As I have said before many many many times, young quarterbacks do not perform well in SEC, they do not lead teams to SEC championships, history backs this claim up.

LSU will win next year behind a defense not a QB. If the defense steps up and becomes a force again LSU should win 10 games.


I'm glad Jordan Jefferson is our starting quarterback. And I think the future for LSU looks bright because he is our starting quarterback.

If JJ was not on our roster, I wouldn't feel very positive about the upcoming season.
Posted by TheDoc
doc is no more
Member since Dec 2005
99297 posts
Posted on 7/21/09 at 2:42 pm to
quote:

He has talent but he is still a year away.


a year away from what?

what if he proves you completely wrong and goes undefeated this season?
Posted by offdacorner
Member since Feb 2009
1853 posts
Posted on 7/21/09 at 2:43 pm to
quote:

however everyone is entiltiled to his/her own opinion.


Speaking of opinions, do you have one?

Since you may have overlooked it the first time, I'll ask you the question again:

If LSU's coaches had not yet named a starter, who would you want to see as the starting QB for the upcoming year?
Posted by TheDoc
doc is no more
Member since Dec 2005
99297 posts
Posted on 7/21/09 at 2:44 pm to
quote:

As I have said before many many many times, young quarterbacks do not perform well in SEC, they do not lead teams to SEC championships


so I guess matt flynn, chris leak, and DJ shockley were the only ones on their team?

you can't have it both ways.
Posted by BT
North La
Member since Aug 2008
9766 posts
Posted on 7/21/09 at 2:44 pm to
actually a JL/JJ combo IMO would be good for our offense.
and fwiw, im no huge fan of 2qb systme... but sometimes when yo uhave two guys that dont have a whole lot of exp... its beneficial to both, ehich in turn helps the team.

You know to mamke this a lttle more clear, LM it no way has forgotten or wrote off JL ,,, its comical but sad that some of you know it alls have.
Posted by TheDoc
doc is no more
Member since Dec 2005
99297 posts
Posted on 7/21/09 at 2:44 pm to
quote:

not all... IMO its hilarious.


it's only funny to you because you don't live in reality like the rest of us do.
Posted by TheDoc
doc is no more
Member since Dec 2005
99297 posts
Posted on 7/21/09 at 2:45 pm to
quote:

I'm glad Jordan Jefferson is our starting quarterback. And I think the future for LSU looks bright because he is our starting quarterback.

If JJ was not on our roster, I wouldn't feel very positive about the upcoming season.


+1
Posted by offdacorner
Member since Feb 2009
1853 posts
Posted on 7/21/09 at 2:46 pm to
quote:

actually a JL/JJ combo IMO would be good for our offense. and fwiw, im no huge fan of 2qb systme... but sometimes when yo uhave two guys that dont have a whole lot of exp... its beneficial to both, ehich in turn helps the team. You know to mamke this a lttle more clear, LM it no way has forgotten or wrote off JL ,,, its comical but sad that some of you know it alls have.


You didn't really answer the question.

Who would you rather see start at QB for the LSU Tigers?
Posted by TheDoc
doc is no more
Member since Dec 2005
99297 posts
Posted on 7/21/09 at 2:46 pm to
quote:

actually a JL/JJ combo IMO would be good for our offense.


quote:

im no huge fan of 2qb systme...


so which is it?

combo? or no combo?
Posted by TheDoc
doc is no more
Member since Dec 2005
99297 posts
Posted on 7/21/09 at 2:46 pm to
quote:

Who would you rather see start at QB for the LSU Tigers?


i think you know the answer to this already...
Posted by BT
North La
Member since Aug 2008
9766 posts
Posted on 7/21/09 at 2:47 pm to
quote:

Speaking of opinions, do you have one?

Since you may have overlooked it the first time, I'll ask you the question again:

If LSU's coaches had not yet named a starter, who would you want to see as the starting QB for the upcoming year?


I gave you an answer and an opinion on the first reply...however I guuss that wasnt what you were looking for.
Jump to page
Page First 9 10 11 12 13 ... 23
Jump to page
first pageprev pagePage 11 of 23Next pagelast page

Back to top
logoFollow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News
Follow us on X, Facebook and Instagram to get the latest updates on LSU Football and Recruiting.

FacebookXInstagram