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re: Why is T-Bob playing?

Posted on 10/26/10 at 1:25 pm to
Posted by Doc Fenton
New York, NY
Member since Feb 2007
52698 posts
Posted on 10/26/10 at 1:25 pm to
Hebert > Lonergan > Hurst > Dworaczyk

Barksdale is sort of hard to get a handle on. I guess you can say he's our best O-lineman, but he whiffs on a lot of pass blocks.

In any sense, the O-line is not as bad as people think they are. They get screwed by the scheme.
Posted by TowandaTiger
Towanda Ks.
Member since Sep 2010
505 posts
Posted on 10/26/10 at 1:26 pm to
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Not by a long shot
He might be. He even blew us up when we double teamed him.
Posted by LSUdm21
Member since Nov 2008
17486 posts
Posted on 10/26/10 at 1:26 pm to
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LSUdm21, I don't think you know what it means. Dickhead. T-Bob was suppose to be blocking #90. He sacked both our QB's feel like a 100 times. His job is to block the d-lineman and keep him off of his QB. He didn't do that. He "sold out". Maybe if he could've held his block JJ or JL probably could've connected for a TD. And as far as his dad. He's a sell out too. Pick 6 Bobby Hebert. Just like JL.


I want the exact definition from your ignorant arse. You're not off with your analysis of T-Bob but your verbage is completely rantarded.
Posted by TowandaTiger
Towanda Ks.
Member since Sep 2010
505 posts
Posted on 10/26/10 at 1:28 pm to
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I want the exact definition from your ignorant arse. You're not off with your analysis of T-Bob but your verbage is completely rantarded.
He is a jackass that should be ignored.
Posted by Doc Fenton
New York, NY
Member since Feb 2007
52698 posts
Posted on 10/26/10 at 1:30 pm to
I think what most people seem to be missing is that LSU's O-line beat AU's D-line for almost an entire half. It wasn't until after halftime adjustments that LSU started to get mauled at the O-line. Why do you people suppose that is?

And, honestly, it was very clear that Fairley was guessing the snap count correctly. He went right through Lonergan & Dworaczyk a couple of times before either of those guys even had a chance to move. If you guess the snap count right, I guarantee you, it will make you look a lot better than you ordinarily would look.

Other than that one sack on Jarrett Lee when AU brought pressure with a blitz, LSU's offense was dominating AU's defense, with the exception of LSU's receivers dropping balls.

getting beaten by halftime adjustments =/= bad players
Posted by aglandry
lafayette
Member since Oct 2008
2574 posts
Posted on 10/26/10 at 1:30 pm to
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I think the offensive linemen will come out fired up as they will want to redeem themselves.








If they couldn't get fired up for Auburn, then they will never get fired up.
Posted by Tiger 79
The Original Tiger 79
Member since Nov 2007
38761 posts
Posted on 10/26/10 at 1:31 pm to
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He's the most technically sound linemen we have and he understands the game of football on a very high level.


correct answer
Posted by CharlesLSU
Member since Jan 2007
33243 posts
Posted on 10/26/10 at 1:36 pm to
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I think what most people seem to be missing is that LSU's O-line beat AU's D-line for almost an entire half. It wasn't until after halftime adjustments that LSU started to get mauled at the O-line. Why do you people suppose that is?

And, honestly, it was very clear that Fairley was guessing the snap count correctly. He went right through Lonergan & Dworaczyk a couple of times before either of those guys even had a chance to move. If you guess the snap count right, I guarantee you, it will make you look a lot better than you ordinarily would look.

Other than that one sack on Jarrett Lee when AU brought pressure with a blitz, LSU's offense was dominating AU's defense, with the exception of LSU's receivers dropping balls.

getting beaten by halftime adjustments =/= bad players



very very sound assessment, doc. the snap count guess got me so pissed when we did get him one time, but never tempted him again!
Posted by Doc Fenton
New York, NY
Member since Feb 2007
52698 posts
Posted on 10/26/10 at 1:39 pm to
It becomes hard to worry about those things when you're having trouble getting the play called and the ball snapped before the game clock hits zero.
Posted by CharlesLSU
Member since Jan 2007
33243 posts
Posted on 10/26/10 at 1:41 pm to
...walkin and chewin bubble gum is hard for some.
Posted by Teacher
Member since Sep 2006
3060 posts
Posted on 10/26/10 at 1:43 pm to
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He's the most technically sound linemen we have and he understands the game of football on a very high level.


This is sad but true. T-Bob is NOT physical enough because he is undersized ( this too is true ).
Posted by TJG210
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2006
29275 posts
Posted on 10/26/10 at 2:04 pm to
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LSU's offense was dominating AU's defense, with the exception of LSU's receivers dropping balls.


Are we talking about the same game? 250yds.....7pts on 4 possessions starting on your 40 is hardly dominating.

10pts with your conventional offense?

Game is tied with 5 minutes left, we have the ball on the 40 and go 3 and out and lose yards?

Where is the domination?

Hell, most of Jeffersons rushing yards came on broken plays.
This post was edited on 10/26/10 at 2:05 pm
Posted by Doc Fenton
New York, NY
Member since Feb 2007
52698 posts
Posted on 10/26/10 at 2:09 pm to
LSU only had 4 drives in the 1st half, and LSU ran all over Auburn, gaining 184 yards.

JJ had 2 horrific throws on the 1st drive (not the rest of the offense's fault), a FG on the 2nd drive, then DeAngelo Peterson dropped a sure first down with LSU driving deep into Auburn territory, and then AU came with the blitz and hurt Jarrett Lee's wrist. He was 6-7 before that play, with the only incompletion being Peterson's drop downfield. Then Toliver dropped another pass, but Jefferson was still able to lead LSU down the field for a TD.

LSU offense was killing Auburn before the halftime adjustments, and it's a shame that we couldn't capitalize on them more rather than making dumb mistakes.

It's an even bigger shame that LSU got only 59 yards on 7 drives in the 2nd half, 39 of them on a halfback pass. You tell me what happened...
Posted by Doc Fenton
New York, NY
Member since Feb 2007
52698 posts
Posted on 10/26/10 at 2:10 pm to
And, yes, 15 first downs in one half of football is good enough to be considered domination.
Posted by TJG210
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2006
29275 posts
Posted on 10/26/10 at 2:15 pm to
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And, yes, 15 first downs in one half of football is good enough to be considered domination.


Domination/no domination......10 points on the scoreboard isn't getting it done.
Posted by Doc Fenton
New York, NY
Member since Feb 2007
52698 posts
Posted on 10/26/10 at 2:18 pm to
Well, when you only have 4 drives in one half, that's how bad a stupid INT plus a big drop on an easy long reception can hurt you.
Posted by Doc Fenton
New York, NY
Member since Feb 2007
52698 posts
Posted on 10/26/10 at 2:19 pm to
And if we're specifically talking about the O-line (which is what this thread is sort of about), then yes, the O-line did in fact "get it done" in the 1st half.

LSU shot itself in the foot a couple of times, but the only black mark on the O-line is not picking up the blitz on that one play that got Jarrett Lee's wrist hurt.
Posted by inadaze
Member since Aug 2010
5175 posts
Posted on 10/26/10 at 2:37 pm to
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Hebert > Lonergan > Hurst > Dworaczyk

Barksdale is sort of hard to get a handle on. I guess you can say he's our best O-lineman, but he whiffs on a lot of pass blocks.

In any sense, the O-line is not as bad as people think they are. They get screwed by the scheme.



I agree Barksdale is the best O-lineman right now. From what Chris Faulk has shown in limited action, I think he might be the 2nd best.

The other 4 are a mess. They have held up well against average and subpar D-lines, but the interior took a thrashing on Saturday. When they go up against big monsters like Fairley or Powe, they are just giving up too much size and strength.

I would have liked to see Williford in there a little to see if he could handle big #90. I think JW's biggest weakness is his lack of any suddenness at all. He really needs to work on adding some explosion and getting his feet quicker.
Posted by CharlesLSU
Member since Jan 2007
33243 posts
Posted on 10/26/10 at 2:40 pm to
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From what Chris Faulk has shown in limited action, I think he might be the 2nd best.


Not near enough of a body of work to render this conclusion, but you did say you "think". I, too, think he will be a player next year and this year is a transition/training year.
Posted by PMV124
New Iberia, LA
Member since Sep 2010
31 posts
Posted on 10/26/10 at 2:41 pm to
I think Josh D. was much worse against Fairley, the whole line struggled against auburn first time this season they have really played bad.
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