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re: Why cant you people get that its not just about losing 2-3 games?

Posted on 12/3/15 at 7:54 pm to
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
47426 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 7:54 pm to
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As you know, it's the last 3-4 years that has people frustrated. 



I get last year but 2012 and 2013 we finished top 15. While not an elite season we only have 20 top 15 finishes in our entire history.

It is cut and dry. Miles has had the best tenure of any lsu football coach and when people say they don't want more of Miles' same ole same ole they sound extremely ignorant because the same ole same ole was our best era ever.

For the record I was in favor of a coaching change if we were getting an upgrade and I think Jimbo is an upgrade.
This post was edited on 12/3/15 at 7:58 pm
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
71473 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 8:02 pm to
Unfortunately Miles has become a victim of his own success; folks want LSU to beat Bama. 1/9 also didn't help. LSU fans hate Bama and if you can't beat Bama, you're gonna have a bad time.

It's not really wins and losses. I know you've watched the games, man. Penalties, not getting plays in, archaic offense, no developing of a QB, Steele and Peveto seem to have been bad hires, etc

Miles was highly successful at LSU. I just think the writing is on the wall. We can be all nostalgic and look back at the numbers, that's fine. But things are different. They feel different. Anyways. Ima go watch The Leftovers.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
71473 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 8:05 pm to
Just saw your edit. You clearly get it too. I get it. Bashing Miles is unnecessary. I think he has become stubborn offensively and folks are frustrated with the same bullshite. I mean, Jimbo has had, what, 4 first rounders? LSU has had 0 first rounders under Miles at QB. It sucks watching the same dog shite every Saturday on offense. It's just old and tired. Love the man, but I want something new to freshen up things. Inject some life back into this program. Hasn't felt the same since 1/9 IMO.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
47426 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 8:23 pm to
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's not really wins and losses. I know you've watched the games, man. Penalties, not getting plays in, archaic offense, no developing of a QB, Steele and Peveto seem to have been bad hires, etc 


Agreed.

quote:

Ima go watch The Leftovers.


I wonder what Meg has planned
Posted by Cdonaldson27
New Orleans
Member since Oct 2015
1074 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 8:24 pm to
Kirby Smart is100% better than Miles????

What are you basing that on exactly? The fact that he worked for Saban and ran his defense.

What do you truly know about him? Did you think that Bo Pellini was going to slay everyone at Nebraska too?
This post was edited on 12/3/15 at 8:27 pm
Posted by Tiger in Texas
Houston, Texas
Member since Sep 2004
21509 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 8:53 pm to
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This team was fun as frick to watch before bama, wtf are you talking about


Not really- a missed FG could have cost us the Ms. St. game, which got close because of Miles being conservative. Florida game shouldn't have been that close, what about Syracuse? We sweated out games except for Auburn and USC.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
71473 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 8:54 pm to
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I wonder what Meg has planned



she's gonna blow that frickin' bridge

pretty unrealistic to think that 1 bridge with a hand full of guards could stop all of those people in the first place
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 8:55 pm to
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Not really- a missed FG could have cost us the Ms. St. game, which got close because of Miles being conservative.
Nope. You don't understand what happened at all.

Tigers win. You lose.
Posted by DrEdgeLSU
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2006
8412 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 9:03 pm to
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LSU has had 0 first rounders under Miles at QB


Yep,

That's right!

Signed,

Jamarcus Russell
2007 NFL Draft #1 Overall Pick
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
71473 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 9:11 pm to
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Yep,

That's right!

Signed,

Jamarcus Russell
2007 NFL Draft #1 Overall Pick


oops, my bad.

I guess Miles deserves all the credit for developing Russell? Even though Russell came to LSU in 2003. I'm sure Russell himself believes had it not been for Miles, he'd never have ben drafted 9 years ago!

Now, let's move on to post Saban recruits and decide what QB Miles really did recruit and develop. Ya know, since Miles is such a highly regarded position coach and offensive guru. How long was he an OC at Oklahoma State?

This post was edited on 12/3/15 at 9:12 pm
Posted by DrEdgeLSU
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2006
8412 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 9:12 pm to
So are you saying that Russell in 2004 was as good as he was in 2005 and 2006?
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
71473 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 9:13 pm to
You mean he wasn't as good as an underclassman as he was an upperclassman?!

Get out of town!

eta are you really going to argue that Miles develops QBs? because you're gonna lose this argument. Let me go get some coffee going.
This post was edited on 12/3/15 at 9:15 pm
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
71473 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 9:20 pm to
that's what I thought.
Posted by DrEdgeLSU
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2006
8412 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 9:23 pm to
Sorry I didn't respond quickly enough for you.

I didn't say that at all. He statement was that zero QBs under miles had been first round draft picks. It was factually inaccurate.

Miles is not a QB coach. He hasn't claimed to be. Not sure what your point is but enjoy your iced mocha latte.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
71473 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 9:28 pm to
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I didn't say that at all. He statement was that zero QBs under miles had been first round draft picks. It was factually inaccurate.



that's fine; I'll concede I was wrong. I posted that on a whim. But you and I both know Miles doesn't deserve any credit for Jamarcus. You know who should? The guy many wanted to replace Miles. Because he then went on to to produce 3 more 1st round QBs in Winston, Ponder and Manuel. I think it's pretty clear who developed Russell. And it wasn't a Miles hire.

But go ahead and continue yo use my post against me even though you know exactly what I mean. Anything to defend Miles amirite?
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
41960 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 9:31 pm to
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Anything to defend Miles amirite?


Not sure why you get butt hurt over people supporting the current coach of the team. It really upsets people for some reason.
Sry not everyone has a jimbo fisher obsession.
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
40033 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 9:32 pm to
Dude. Every single one of your posts is firing off on other fans. I'll ask again - Why are you here?
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
41960 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 9:35 pm to
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Why are you here?



Looks like I'm discussing.

I love that you call me out with the irrational program bashing and bull shite spewed all over this board. But me supporting the coach is outlandish to you apparently

Whatever bro
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
71473 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 9:37 pm to
Some of us would prefer him not be the coach of the team, for obvious reasons. Oh, and you were one of them. And by some of us, I mean the majority of us. If you don't like it, take your fence riding, white knighting bullshite to reddit where they will give you lollipops and hugs while you jerk off to pictures of Les.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
71473 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 9:39 pm to
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But me supporting the coach is outlandish to you apparently


so no matter who the current coach is, you will support them. Nice. You're a shitty fan for this reason alone. What a simple minded way to look at things.
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