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re: Why can't LSU & USC
Posted on 7/31/08 at 3:16 pm to windriver
Posted on 7/31/08 at 3:16 pm to windriver
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dont't give me this (our SEC schedule is too brutal crap).
All the other SEC schools seem to be able to schedule other bit time schools including USC.
Look at all the other SEC schools schedule's for this year.
We did play Va Tech last year and THAT was the game that actually put us in the BCS NC game.
Without beating Va Tech last year, we would have been left out.
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Posted on 7/31/08 at 3:16 pm to LSUTANGERINE
USC has to schedule tougher OOC games. Their Pac 10 games are the cream puff ones.
LSU almost always has a tougher SOS than USC at the end of the year. It's part of playing in the SEC, which Trojans will never understand.
LSU almost always has a tougher SOS than USC at the end of the year. It's part of playing in the SEC, which Trojans will never understand.
Posted on 7/31/08 at 3:16 pm to 12inches
quote:Really? Funny, then, that we consistently play more ranked teams, more top 10 teams, more bowl teams, etc.
USC seems to take on anyone.
Posted on 7/31/08 at 3:17 pm to BayouBlitz
I would like to see 1 marquee OOC game every other year. That would build enough anticipation for me.
Otherwise, the rumor is that football is a physical contact sport. Take out the 'cupcakes', 'warmup teams', 'rent-a-wins', what have you... and you'll end up with a team full of limping, ACL-tearing, walking-wounded. We were in that situation early last year.
Nah... The SEC IS tough enough... + 1 marquee OOC every other year. IMHO, of course.
Otherwise, the rumor is that football is a physical contact sport. Take out the 'cupcakes', 'warmup teams', 'rent-a-wins', what have you... and you'll end up with a team full of limping, ACL-tearing, walking-wounded. We were in that situation early last year.
Nah... The SEC IS tough enough... + 1 marquee OOC every other year. IMHO, of course.
This post was edited on 7/31/08 at 3:19 pm
Posted on 7/31/08 at 3:19 pm to Dr Rosenrosen
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our SEC schedule is too brutal crap
Is that why we have a home & home with Washington?
This post was edited on 7/31/08 at 3:20 pm
Posted on 7/31/08 at 3:21 pm to los angeles tiger
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Washington?
Posted on 7/31/08 at 3:22 pm to BayouBlitz
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Ohio St.
Ohio st is going to spank that arse.. I think it was a big mistake for USC to schedule them...
Almost all of Ohio st are coming back.
This post was edited on 7/31/08 at 3:26 pm
Posted on 7/31/08 at 3:27 pm to Ray Ray Rodman
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Washington?
It is a PAC-10 team so it'll make the 4th PAC-10 team we've played within 7 years. We can't help it if that's a pussy conference. Oh, doesn't $C play them?
Posted on 7/31/08 at 3:28 pm to CP3JR25
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I very much doubt that USC has a mangina. Why would LSU have to beat 4 #1's just to get to the national title game when no other team has even beaten one # 1 team through the season to many tough games whenever USC has to play one tough team through the whole year to make it. come on think before you type
OK spelling Gestapo. I'm impressed with your editing abilty. You got my fricking message you condescending fellow LSU fan.
Posted on 7/31/08 at 3:29 pm to windriver
awww hell, not this shite again!
Posted on 7/31/08 at 3:34 pm to Tiger_n_ATL
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USC seems to take on anyone. Aurburn, Arkansas, and now Ohio St
we played them all in one year
and yeah i think ohio state might actually not lose the NC this year. and then....Posted on 7/31/08 at 3:35 pm to windriver
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And where in my post did I say anything about LSU playing nothing but top 20 teams?
When you said this...
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I say play the best there is (or who claim to be) and settle it on the field. If you think your the best then take em' on.
LSU played 5 teams ranked in the top 15 after bowl games played out. Nobody else that finished in the top 20 did that. And LSU went 5-0 in those games. LSU's resume at season end was clearly the most impressive. I just don't see what's to complain about.
Posted on 7/31/08 at 3:49 pm to BayouBlitz
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LSU played 5 teams ranked in the top 15 after bowl games played out. Nobody else that finished in the top 20 did that. And LSU went 5-0 in those games. LSU's resume at season end was clearly the most impressive. I just don't see what's to complain about.
I wasn't complaining. I would just like to see LSU when they are at their best, play the best. Hell, we have already kicked the crap out of Miami, VA Tech, Ohio State, Notre Dame, and Washington (1982 when they were ranked #1 or 2 in the country). I'm not taking anything away from our "damn strong football team".
Posted on 7/31/08 at 3:53 pm to Towelie
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what the frick does that say?
Drink a bottle of cheap vodka then read it and it makes perfect since.
Posted on 7/31/08 at 4:03 pm to Cadercole
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the LSU and Tulane deal is massively beneficial to both sides.
No, it's massively beneficial to Tulane and completely worthless to LSU.
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LSU gets a great deal.
Yes, a potentially fatal hit to our strength of schedule in return for giving up a home game against another cupcake that would do us no more harm in the SOS department but make us a lot more money.
Or, of course, we could do the unthinkable and actually schedule a decent opponent home and home instead of Tulane.
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Assuming we can get one for 600k. A game at TS has a 2.85 profit at LSU LINK (this is 2.4 from '05, ticket prices up $8 since then, presumably about 1/3 of that eaten by higher operating costs, but safe to add to the 2.4 to bring up to 2.85) , take out .6 and you are left with 2.25 or 4.5 over two years for AD budget.
Tulane deal is a full 2.85 one year (no payout to them) and a 1.8 payment from the year in New Orleans (selling 40k at 45 each) so that is 4.65 over a two year cycle. Making LSU more money than they would by having an extra troy game.
Your figures are complete horseshite. The real numbers were posted on here within the past month. LSU makes a LOT more on a home game than it does on a road game in this deal. We do not make 1.8 million from the games in New Orleans. We don't even gross that from selling tickets, let alone net it after expenses. And we make a hell of a lot more than 2.85 million for home games. A hell of a lot more. And why in the hell does charging an extra $8 a ticket drive up operating costs?
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Its a great deal all around.
It's a great deal for Tulane and anybody who wants LSU to miss out on a potential national championship one of these years because of a creampuff OOC schedule. For LSU and anybody who wants to see it succeed, it sucks balls.
Unfortunately, the people in our AD who made this unbelievably idiotic deal were as confused as you are about its potential.
It is the single worst decision ever made by the LSU Athletic Department, with the possible exception of hiring Mike Archer instead of Steve Spurrier or one of the other candidates for head football coach in 1987.
Posted on 7/31/08 at 4:06 pm to Nuts4LSU
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It is the single worst decision ever made by the LSU Athletic Department, with the possible exception of hiring Mike Archer instead of Steve Spurrier or one of the other candidates for head football coach in 1987.
At last, someone speaks the truth.
Posted on 7/31/08 at 4:07 pm to Port City
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I'm not saying a USC type team every year but definitely some decent OOC games.
It seems the new AD agrees as well.
It all boils down to money management and trying to keep ticket prices down. Most of the schools in FBS are able to play road games outside of the conference on a regular basis. Many play at least one every year. Most play at least one every other year. LSU, for whatever reasons, has found that nearly impossible. But the real kicker is that, when we finally did manage to find a way to play more road games, we wasted them on fricking TULANE!
Just about every school in the country finds a way to get by on less than 8 home games a year (or 7.5 or whatever we're averaging these days). For some reason, ever since Bob Brodhead was forced out, we can't. If Joe Alleva can do that, he'll be the best AD we've had since at least the Brodhead era.
Posted on 7/31/08 at 4:09 pm to Nuts4LSU
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It is the single worst decision ever made by the LSU Athletic Department, with the possible exception of hiring Mike Archer instead of Steve Spurrier or one of the other candidates for head football coach in 1987.
Actually, the worst decision ever made was the appointment of Joe Dean as Athletic Director at LSU. That is the second and the Tulane deal is the third worst.
Posted on 7/31/08 at 4:13 pm to BayouBlitz
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LSU played 5 teams ranked in the top 15 after bowl games played out. Nobody else that finished in the top 20 did that. And LSU went 5-0 in those games. LSU's resume at season end was clearly the most impressive. I just don't see what's to complain about.
We played Virginia Tech last year. Nobody complained about that. It's THIS year that sucks. This year, we will not have played more ranked teams than anyone else when the season is over.
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