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re: Why can't good highschool qbs realize that the qb position is the missing link

Posted on 2/7/15 at 1:15 pm to
Posted by LSUANDY25
Frisco
Member since Dec 2012
3087 posts
Posted on 2/7/15 at 1:15 pm to
Jimbo knows QB's. He a whisper.

This post was edited on 2/7/15 at 1:16 pm
Posted by JaxTiger10
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2014
3893 posts
Posted on 2/7/15 at 1:49 pm to
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No shite Sherlock really... who wouldve known. Is this limited to just coaches?


Then why ask the question? He has been here 2 years. 1 was great and one was bad.
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Higher salary should equal higher expectations... Read that again Jax, since u seem to enjoy lecturing people. 


High expectations? Like turning a below average qb into a qb that had the 2nd greatest single season in LSU history?
As far as me lecturing posters.its not my fault this board is overrun with xbox coaches that dont understand actual football. Its not my fault you have posters on this board that think because we ran a few zone read and jet sweep plays, that we changed our offense.
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This was the worst QB play Miles has had and we are paying top dollar


Mett in 2012 had similar stats to Jennings in 2014. So let 2015 play out and we may see a big jump in production like Mett had in 2013.
Posted by JaxTiger10
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2014
3893 posts
Posted on 2/7/15 at 1:59 pm to
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How many turnovers the last 6 games by Mett his Jr yr. Mett played better as the season progressed period


Again. FACTS PROVE YOU WRONG.
In the last 3 games of Mett's junior year(2012) he threw more ints than the rest of the season combined.
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Stay in denial.

Ill take facts over your opinion any day.
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And if u are seriously comparing Mett's jr year to what we ran out there last yr well keep reading stats

Qb A
2600 total yards 58.8 compl%
7.4 yards/ att. 12 tds 7 ints
Qb B
2100 total yards 48.4 compl%
7.0 yards/att. 11 tds 7ints

Qb B also missed a game and didnt take all the snaps and qb a did.

Stats are facts. Stats are production. There isnt a huge gap in production from those 2 qbs.
Posted by JaxTiger10
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2014
3893 posts
Posted on 2/7/15 at 2:02 pm to
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As Les would say it. Come to LSU where a young quarterbacks dreams come to die.



Another rant myth that is false.
SINCE MILES WAS HIRED, NO SEC PROGRAM HAS SENT MORE QBS TO THE NFL THAN LSU.

Its like posters just want to make up things to bash our program.
Posted by JaxTiger10
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2014
3893 posts
Posted on 2/7/15 at 2:03 pm to
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used to think this. But by now the evidence has piled up. Miles has produced some of the worst offenses pound for pound that I have ever seen. I am fairly sure most star QB's have seen LSU in action and said 




He has also produced 4 of the best lsu offenses. 2006,2007,2011,2013

But this doesn't go with your biased opinion.
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
51613 posts
Posted on 2/7/15 at 2:24 pm to
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many coaches in high school still prefer to run a wing t and other run heavily based offenses


LSU isn't looking at "many" kids from "many" different high schools... i think there's enough winning QBs in high school out there for everybody
Posted by chilge1
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
12137 posts
Posted on 2/7/15 at 2:26 pm to
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i think there's enough winning QBs in high school out there for everybody


If there were, they wouldn't be so heavily recruited.
Posted by JaxTiger10
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2014
3893 posts
Posted on 2/7/15 at 3:17 pm to
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there were, they wouldn't be so heavily recruited.


HS qbs that take snaps under center is becoming increasingly rare. Its sucks
Posted by dreaux
baton rouge
Member since Oct 2006
40881 posts
Posted on 2/7/15 at 4:25 pm to
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Football_Freak


Idiot.
Posted by jose canseco
Houston via Houma via BR via NOLA
Member since Jul 2007
5667 posts
Posted on 2/7/15 at 4:32 pm to
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There isn't a college program on LSU's level that struggles at this position they way we have.


Feels like Texas hasn't had a good qb for a while
Posted by sabanisarustedspoke
Member since Jan 2007
5436 posts
Posted on 2/7/15 at 4:39 pm to
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High expectations? Like turning a below average qb into a qb that had the 2nd greatest single season in LSU history?
As far as me lecturing posters.its not my fault this board is overrun with xbox coaches that dont understand actual football. Its not my fault you have posters on this board that think because we ran a few zone read and jet sweep plays, that we changed our offense.



You can't be serious with that. I bet Zach thanks Les everyday for getting him to the NFL, being below average and all. Have you watched any of his HS or JC film? And all these Xbox coaches on this site have no understanding of football. As a matter of fact, I feel so much more educated now thanks to you that I am going to completely forget the games I watched last season of what I thought was the most embarrassing QB play and offense that I've ever seen at LSU. Now I'm convinced last season was absolutely phenomenal and if we are lucky, hopefully we can put up offensive numbers coming just close to those then we will surely make the playoffs and maybe even win it all. But if we don't it will probably be due to poor defense bc it couldn't possibly be poor coaching and shite quarterback play. Thanks Bill Walsh
Posted by League Champs
Bayou Self
Member since Oct 2012
10340 posts
Posted on 2/7/15 at 4:50 pm to
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SINCE MILES WAS HIRED, NO SEC PROGRAM HAS SENT MORE QBS TO THE NFL THAN LSU.

Stop, you come across as an idiot

First, the 3 Qbs that "Miles" sent to the NFL were tutored mainly by Jimbo Fisher (Josh Booty, Rohan Davey, Matt Mauck, Flynn, and Russell, Ponder, Manuel, Winston), and a UGA/ Juco transfer. So youre giving MILES, way too much credit for those 3. But even still, youre wrong

5 - Alabama (Brodie Croyle, John Parker Wilson, Greg McElroy, McCarron, and Sims/ invited to the combine)
4 - Texas A&M (Reggie McNeal, Stephen McGee, Tannehill & Manziel)
4 - Tenn - (Erik Ainge, Jonathan Crompton, Matt Sims, Tyler Bray)
3 - UGa - (D. J. Shockley, Stafford, Murray)
3 - Mizzou - (Brad Smith, Daniel, Gabbert)
2 - Auburn - (Jason Campbell, Cam)
2 - Florida - (Chris Leak, Tebow)
This post was edited on 2/7/15 at 4:56 pm
Posted by LSUANDY25
Frisco
Member since Dec 2012
3087 posts
Posted on 2/7/15 at 5:27 pm to
jax

U can play your little stat sheet all u want.
BTW 48% doesnt have anything to do with games played.

Mett ran a real offense and completed 3rd down throws. He audibled and was in control of the offense. But if u cant watch these two QB's with your own eyes and clearly see that Mett was night and day better than Jennings/Harris, then stay in denial.

Stats are facts and can be very very misleading.

U know kinda like the leading scorer on a bad basketball team. Or a guy like Jennings who hands off every play and when he doesnt he might fool someone a have a wide open bomb.

Stats are what they are, stats. Its why they arent under the W/L column.
This post was edited on 2/7/15 at 5:31 pm
Posted by LSUANDY25
Frisco
Member since Dec 2012
3087 posts
Posted on 2/7/15 at 5:42 pm to
Mett's Jr yr 2012

JUNIOR SEASON (2012)
Started all 13 games as a junior, leading LSU to a 10-3 overall mark and to three wins over Top 25 teams … Threw for 2,609 yards and 12 TDs on 207-of-352 passing … Threw just seven interceptions all year … His 50:1 ratio of passes to interceptions rates as the best for a single-season in school history for quarterbacks with at least 300 attempts … His 2,609 passing yards ranks as the fifth-highest total in school history … Ranked No. 5 in LSU history in completions in a season (207) and No.4 in attempts (352) … Capped regular-season by throwing for 200 or more yards in four straight games, including three straight SEC games (298 vs. Alabama, 273 vs. Mississippi State, 282 vs. Ole Miss)
Posted by JaxTiger10
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2014
3893 posts
Posted on 2/7/15 at 5:47 pm to
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Stats are what they are, stats. Its why they arent under the W/L column.


Stats are facts.not biased opinion. 2012 Mett was no where near 2013 Mett.
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Mett ran a real offense and completed 3rd down throws


Again facts say there wasnt much difference in 3rd down conv%
2012-40%
2014-37%
Just facts.
Posted by JaxTiger10
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2014
3893 posts
Posted on 2/7/15 at 5:51 pm to
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His 50:1 ratio of passes to interceptions rates as the best for a single-season in school history for quarterbacks with at least 300 attempts


Do you know how rare it is for a lsu qb to pass the ball 300 times?

His yards per attempt were .4 higher than Jennings. His qb rating was all of 10 points higher than Jennings.
Posted by JaxTiger10
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2014
3893 posts
Posted on 2/7/15 at 5:54 pm to
Miles has sent Russell, flynn, Mett.
Mett spent 5 months at UGA you dumbass. Its amazing how you move the bar to diminish anything positive about Miles' tenure. Its sad.
Youre the idiot.
This post was edited on 2/7/15 at 5:59 pm
Posted by JaxTiger10
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2014
3893 posts
Posted on 2/7/15 at 6:03 pm to
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Now I'm convinced last season was absolutely phenomenal 


When did i say that, boy? I said
Mett's 2012 season wasnt that much different Jenning's season statistically.
Mett had 12tds-7 ints and qb rating of 128
Jennings had 11 tds-7 ints and a qb rating of 118.
These are facts dumbass. Not an opinion.
I'm sorry you dont know shite about football.
This post was edited on 2/7/15 at 6:04 pm
Posted by sabanisarustedspoke
Member since Jan 2007
5436 posts
Posted on 2/7/15 at 6:06 pm to
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Do you know how rare it is for a lsu qb to pass the ball 300 times?

His yards per attempt were .4 higher than Jennings. His qb rating was all of 10 points higher than Jennings.




So you are basically saying that Mett was just slightly better than Jennings and that next year we should expect a "Pro-like" year out of AJ? I'm not sure about your stats, I've got fun shite to do so I won't be checking them up, but I did watch every game both of those qb's have played as Tigers and sincerely hope you are correct. However, from my "stat-free" perspective in which I only use the good ole eyetest I think we are pretty much fricked unless Harris improved greatly and is given a chance.
Posted by White Tiger
Dallas
Member since Jul 2007
13164 posts
Posted on 2/7/15 at 6:10 pm to
I think that the "good" QBs look at Les Miles and say....nahhhhhhhhhh. Why would ANY good QB prospect want to come the LSU after seeing what recent history has shown? This is a legitimate question. Look at the way that Miles has "handled" the offense. It has been crap mostly and this past year was especially dreadful. My money says that AJ starts next year as well and that any "competition" that Miles discusses at the QB position is pure propaganda. May events prove me wrong, please.
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