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re: Why can't good highschool qbs realize that the qb position is the missing link
Posted on 2/8/15 at 11:29 am to boxcar willie
Posted on 2/8/15 at 11:29 am to boxcar willie
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There is something wrong with that if you want to recruit the top high school QB's. Not very attractive situation for them.
That example was an extreme, but even so, does LA put out higher quality QBs or RBs?
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Posted on 2/8/15 at 11:43 am to chilge1
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does LA put out higher quality QBs or RBs?
well you kind of need both. You definitely need solid QB play. You need a passing game.
Posted on 2/8/15 at 11:51 am to Broski
Then how come bama gets #1 QBs constantly? They don't develope pro qbs
Posted on 2/8/15 at 11:52 am to boxcar willie
Just saying, if your goal is to win championships, we've done it with Matt Mauck, Matt Flynn, Jordan Jefferson, and Jarrett Lee.
We've missed on a championship with Jamarcus Russell and Zach Mettenberger. Ryan Perrilloux couldnt last longmenough to be a starting QB. And even though we won the SEC in 2001, Davey didn't play in that game.
The QB position at LSU gets overvalued because it... Well, it hasn't been the brightest spot on the team. But we don't need elite QBs to win titles.
We've missed on a championship with Jamarcus Russell and Zach Mettenberger. Ryan Perrilloux couldnt last longmenough to be a starting QB. And even though we won the SEC in 2001, Davey didn't play in that game.
The QB position at LSU gets overvalued because it... Well, it hasn't been the brightest spot on the team. But we don't need elite QBs to win titles.
Posted on 2/8/15 at 11:53 am to wish i was tebow
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Then how come bama gets #1 QBs constantly?
They don't.
Posted on 2/8/15 at 12:37 pm to Goldrush25
For what it's worth, a former LSU QB and baseball star of many decades ago and a self proclaimed NFL agent had an interesting slant to offer on the QB situation. They both claimed that NFL teams like to stay away from SEC QBs in general because the style of. Play rarely lends to good pro style development. With the exception of the Mannings, there is not a long line of SEC stud QBs in NFL.
Now this conversation took place at a local watering hole near the Interstate but ended with a hint that Miles Many will be our next three season starter.....just a smart athlete needed....pending an okay from mama Miles. So don'tbe too surprised to see the best five star signal callers looking west coast or ACC
Now this conversation took place at a local watering hole near the Interstate but ended with a hint that Miles Many will be our next three season starter.....just a smart athlete needed....pending an okay from mama Miles. So don'tbe too surprised to see the best five star signal callers looking west coast or ACC
Posted on 2/8/15 at 1:39 pm to wish i was tebow
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Then how come bama gets #1 QBs constantly? They don't develope pro qbs
They dont
Posted on 2/8/15 at 2:40 pm to Tigfisher
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Good qbs at lsu would have produced more national championship tshirts for me to wear!
This post was edited on 2/8/15 at 2:47 pm
Posted on 2/8/15 at 2:48 pm to Tigfisher
OL will change this...
Posted on 2/8/15 at 3:03 pm to chilge1
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But we don't need elite QBs to win titles.
no team NEEDS an elite QB if they are loaded with talent elsewhere. It just makes it a hell of a lot more likely to happen
Posted on 2/8/15 at 3:05 pm to Cadello
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OL will change this...
True, next season o-line is going to be even better and it looks like it will be that way for years to come. That in itself, along with better play calling, is going to go a long way to making Jennings look more like an elite QB.
edit: or Harris or whoever else it may be.
This post was edited on 2/8/15 at 3:06 pm
Posted on 2/8/15 at 3:40 pm to Broski
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They care much more about making it the NFL than winning in college.
They see that LSU has a tough time developing and sending QB's to the NFL.
russell was the no 1 overall pick at qb a few years back LSU leads all universities at putting players inthe NFL. Thier wrs do great . OB jr,Landry,La feoo ,hell Im noet going through through the list. it is a mystery. how about a dedicsded QB coach .
Posted on 2/8/15 at 3:49 pm to boxcar willie
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That in itself, along with better play calling, is going to go a long way to making Jennings look more like an elite QB.
It's no coincidence that our worst game of the year came without Vadal and Porter.
Posted on 2/10/15 at 1:14 pm to JaxTiger10
I know Jennings isnt on the list.
Posted on 2/10/15 at 1:27 pm to chilge1
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t's no coincidence that our worst game of the year came without Vadal and Porter.
Agreed, but I can tell you that my frustration will be past my limit if next year I see AJ playing just as bad as I saw this year and then I will be forced to listen to Miles' protectors say "Harris doesnt' know the system", "Our QB's are young and it takes time to develop", basically everything except owning up to the fact that Miles has failed to put or develop a viable QB on the field for too many of his 10 years here. I think the biggest frustration is that it's not just that we don't have someone to effectively manage the game, but that the one we've seen who we are told is our best option, is not even close to effectively managing the game. This has happened too often under Miles. Being forced to watch Hatch, Lee(frosh yr). Jefferson, and Jennings as our best chance to win has been a complete joke and intolerable.
This post was edited on 2/10/15 at 2:47 pm
Posted on 2/10/15 at 2:52 pm to Bojangles
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It's fricking coaching and philosophy. We have a top qb committed next season with a massive arm And this is different from last year and the Brandon Harris dialogue how?
No kidding!
Posted on 2/10/15 at 4:03 pm to sabanisarustedspoke
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Being forced to watch Hatch, Lee(frosh yr). Jefferson, and Jennings as our best chance to win has been a complete joke and intolerable.
Technically, Hatch was undefeated.
In 2008, Lee was two years removed from high school. Same with Jefferson in 2009 and same with Jennings in 2014. As much as you hate to hear it, young QBs DO take time to develop. We won the SEC in 2011 with Jefferson and Lee, and no NFL talent aside from Reuben Randle.
If Jennings isn't a capable passing threat in 2015, then it is absolutely Harris's time if he puts in the work and settles in.
Posted on 2/10/15 at 7:30 pm to chilge1
The above is a logical fallacy. Just because the QBs that LSU has had in the past that have allowed us to win championships weren't "great" (of course great is a subjective definition, but I’ll assume we’re referring to statistical production), it doesn't mean that having a "good/okay”, but not “great” QB, somehow enhances chances of success. Also, just because in the past when we’ve “great” QBs and we have failed to win a championship, it doesn’t mean that having a “great” QB is somehow a detriment to the chances of success.
Correlation does not equal causation.
Correlation does not equal causation.
Posted on 2/11/15 at 11:54 am to lsu2k3
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having a “great” QB is somehow a detriment to the chances of success.
Yeah, because that's exactly what I said.
Posted on 2/11/15 at 2:19 pm to chilge1
"Just saying, if your goal is to win championships, we've done it with Matt Mauck, Matt Flynn, Jordan Jefferson, and Jarrett Lee.
We've missed on a championship with Jamarcus Russell and Zach Mettenberger. Ryan Perrilloux couldnt last longmenough to be a starting QB. And even though we won the SEC in 2001, Davey didn't play in that game. "
The implication you are making is that we have managed to win championships when we didn't have our considered elite quarterbacks. Therefore, elite quarterbacks are not needed to win is what you are implying.
This might be true, that elite QBs are not necessary to win titles. However, better QB play would certainly contribute to a better outcome and I would even't call 2014 average at QB.
Saying the quarterback position has been overvalued at LSU might have some truth to it, due to lacking at the position over the years. However, the perception when you post quotes like the above is that we will somehow be more likely to win with less then elite quarterback play. That good to average is somehow advantageous to LSU over elite.
Just stating what it seems like you are implying.
Do you agree that last year's QB performance was a significant factor in some our losses? Not saying its the only factor. If not what would you say were the most significant factors?
We've missed on a championship with Jamarcus Russell and Zach Mettenberger. Ryan Perrilloux couldnt last longmenough to be a starting QB. And even though we won the SEC in 2001, Davey didn't play in that game. "
The implication you are making is that we have managed to win championships when we didn't have our considered elite quarterbacks. Therefore, elite quarterbacks are not needed to win is what you are implying.
This might be true, that elite QBs are not necessary to win titles. However, better QB play would certainly contribute to a better outcome and I would even't call 2014 average at QB.
Saying the quarterback position has been overvalued at LSU might have some truth to it, due to lacking at the position over the years. However, the perception when you post quotes like the above is that we will somehow be more likely to win with less then elite quarterback play. That good to average is somehow advantageous to LSU over elite.
Just stating what it seems like you are implying.
Do you agree that last year's QB performance was a significant factor in some our losses? Not saying its the only factor. If not what would you say were the most significant factors?
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