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re: Who'd ya rather (for HC)...

Posted on 4/16/10 at 12:55 am to
Posted by TheBob
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Posted on 4/16/10 at 12:55 am to
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I am suggesting That Darren McFadden was one of the best RBs to every play in the SEC & his backup Felix Jones was very good.


Casey Dick threw a pass to Peyton Hillis to covert on 4th and 10 in OT fwiw.
Posted by Rocket
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Posted on 4/16/10 at 12:57 am to
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I'm not suggesting that. I am suggesting That Darren McFadden was one of the best RBs to every play in the SEC & his backup Felix Jones was very good.


It's not flying. We had better athletes across the board and we came out completely flat that day with a lot on the line. And Houston Dale drug his ballsack across your forehead.
Posted by Sammich
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Posted on 4/16/10 at 1:15 am to
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Casey Dick threw a pass to Peyton Hillis to covert on 4th and 10 in OT fwiw.


Arkansas' last score was a Hillis 3 yard run, followed by a Jones 2 pt rush conversion.

This post was edited on 4/16/10 at 1:24 am
Posted by Sammich
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Posted on 4/16/10 at 1:18 am to
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It's not flying. We had better athletes across the board and we came out completely flat that day with a lot on the line.


McFadden outrushed allof LSU's RBs combined. If that's what you mean by better athletes across the board. I believe both He & jones were 1st round picks in the NFL draft correct?

That means you just told me an "Untruth" Rocket. Arkansas had better talent at the RB position that LSU that day.
This post was edited on 4/16/10 at 1:20 am
Posted by secfan123
beverly hills
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Posted on 4/16/10 at 1:20 am to
C'mon Sammich, you're using my quote in your sig and you won't respond to tell how me I'm wrong?
Posted by Rocket
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Posted on 4/16/10 at 1:25 am to
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McFadden outrushed allof LSU's RBs combined. If that's what you mean by better athletes across the board. I believe both He & jones were 1st round picks in the NFL draft correct


Muschamp's defense managed to hold Arkansas to far fewer points and yards than we did that year.

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That means you just told me an "Untruth" Rocket


No

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Arkansas had better talent at the RB position that LSU that day.


They had better athletes at RB than Auburn, yet Auburn was able to beat them. We just sucked that day.
Posted by Sammich
Member since Apr 2004
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Posted on 4/16/10 at 1:55 am to
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Muschamp's defense managed to hold Arkansas to far fewer points and yards than we did that year

Does this make him a good candidate for the Texas job?
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They had better athletes at RB than Auburn, yet Auburn was able to beat them. We just sucked that day.

However, according to LSUsports.net LSU's 2007 team sliced & diced up Muschamp's Defense to the tune of 488 yards. Hmm..
This post was edited on 4/16/10 at 1:56 am
Posted by Rocket
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Posted on 4/16/10 at 2:00 am to
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Does this make him a good candidate for the Texas job?
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Lots of things do.

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However, according to LSUsports.net LSU's 2007 team sliced & diced up Muschamp's Defense to the tune of 488 yards. Hmm..


Well, considering our defense didn't go up against our offense, there's no telling how that would have worked out. And Arkansas racked up a total of 513 yards against us that year.
This post was edited on 4/16/10 at 2:09 am
Posted by Sammich
Member since Apr 2004
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Posted on 4/16/10 at 2:09 am to
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Lots of things do


Like what really? The Head butting, the Chest bumping, his "Plucky Spiirit" sideline demeanor?
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Well, considering our defense didn't go up against our offense, there's no telling how that would have worked out.

According to the NCAA...LSU had the #3 ranked Defense that year. Willy Muschamp's Auburn Defense ranked #6.

Posted by secfan123
beverly hills
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 4/16/10 at 2:12 am to
Sammich, I'm still waiting for you to tell me how i'm wrong.

Here's my argument:

1990: Finished the regular season with two losses. once beaten Colorado and once beaten once tied Georgia Tech would have played for the BCS championship had there been one. For 2 loss, 13th ranked Florida, it was a moot point as they were serving a bowl ban.

1991: Spurrier finished the regular season with one loss. Undefeated Miami and undefeated Washington would have played for the BCS title.

1992: Finished regular season with 3 losses. Undefeated Alabama and undefeated Miami would have been in the BCS title game (these teams did actually play in the Sugar Bowl).

1993: Finished the regular season with 2 losses(one to national champion FSU) BCS would have been once beaten #1 FSU vs. once beaten #2 Nebraska (these teams did actually play in the Orange Bowl). #3 notre dame also only had one loss, and had beaten fsu.

1994: Florida finished the regular season 10-1-1. The BCS would have featured unbeaten Nebraska vs. unbeaten Penn St.

1995: #2 Florida did play #1 Nebraska in the Orange Bowl (it weren't pretty- Spurrier promptly hires Bob Stoops)

1996: #1 and unbeaten Florida loses in the last weekend to #2 and unbeaten FSU. BCS would have featured #1 undefeated FSU vs. #2 and undefeated Arizona State. (Note, this is the year Spurrier won the national title. To win it, he needed Michigan to upset unbeaten Ohio St. in their rivalry, which they did. He then needed unranked Texas to beat unbeaten #3 Nebraska in the Big 12 championship game-which they did- and then needed unbeaten #2 Arizona State to lose in the Rose bowl- which they did)

1997: Unbeaten Nebraska would have played unbeaten Micigan. (These two teams split the AP and Coaches poll_)

1998: BCS starts. Tennessee wins the first one against FSU.

Now, please, since you insulted me, tell me where I'm wrong, how Florida was NOT lucky to win the title in 1996, and how the BCS would have helped Spurrier win (or even play for) more titles.

This post was edited on 4/16/10 at 3:58 am
Posted by Rocket
Member since Mar 2004
61117 posts
Posted on 4/16/10 at 2:13 am to
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Like what really? The Head butting, the Chest bumping, his "Plucky Spiirit" sideline demeanor?
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His recruiting ability and motivational ability and his ability to coach defense are just a few aspects.

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According to the NCAA...LSU had the #3 ranked Defense that yea


In total defense. Wanna guess where we ranked in scoring defense?

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Willy Muschamp's Auburn Defense ranked #6.


In scoring and total defense. Wanna know which defense finished first in scoring defense that year in the SEC??

And Arkansas put up more yards on us than we put up on Auburn.
This post was edited on 4/16/10 at 2:20 am
Posted by Sammich
Member since Apr 2004
9375 posts
Posted on 4/16/10 at 2:32 am to
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His recruiting ability and motivational ability and his ability to coach defense are just a few aspects


His recruiting ability? Muschamp was a Safety in College correct? Yet the #1 Safety by most every source published anywhere..signed with Big Les at LSU. That of course was Craig Loston form texas in February 2009. Hmm...I wonder if Willy knows something that John Chavis & Ron Cooper do not?
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In total defense. Wanna guess where we ranked in scoring defense? In scoring and total defense. Wanna know which defense finished first in scoring defense that year in the SEC??

Nah...because when you start parting out a car..it ceases to be a car.

Posted by secfan123
beverly hills
Member since Jan 2010
9646 posts
Posted on 4/16/10 at 2:36 am to
Sammich, you've still NOT responded to my argument. After calling me stupid, it would seem the only decent thing to do. Here it is one more. Why Florida was lucky to be in the championship Game in 96 and how the BCS would not only have NOT helped Spurrier, it would have kept him for the one title he did get.


1990: Finished the regular season with two losses. once beaten Colorado and once beaten once tied Georgia Tech would have played for the BCS championship had there been one. For 2 loss, 13th ranked Florida, it was a moot point as they were serving a bowl ban.

1991: Spurrier finished the regular season with one loss. Undefeated Miami and undefeated Washington would have played for the BCS title.

1992: Finished regular season with 3 losses. Undefeated Alabama and undefeated Miami would have been in the BCS title game (these teams did actually play in the Sugar Bowl).

1993: Finished the regular season with 2 losses (one to national champion FSU) BCS would have been #1 FSU vs. #2 Nebraska (these teams did actually play in the Orange Bowl)

1994: Florida finished the regular season 10-1-1. The BCS would have featured unbeaten Nebraska vs. unbeaten Penn St.

1995: #2 Florida did play #1 Nebraska in the Orange Bowl (it weren't pretty- Spurrier promptly hires Bob Stoops)

1996: #1 and unbeaten Florida loses in the last weekend to #2 and unbeaten FSU. BCS would have featured #1 undefeated FSU vs. #2 and undefeated Arizona State. (Note, this is the year Spurrier won the national title. He lost to unbeaten FSU on the last game of the season. To win the title, he needed Michigan to upset unbeaten Ohio St. in their rivalry, which they did. He then needed unranked Texas to beat #3 Nebraska in the Big 12 championship game-which they did- and then needed unbeaten #2 Arizona State to lose in the Rose bowl- which they did)

1997: Unbeaten Nebraska would have played unbeaten Micigan. (These two teams split the AP and Coaches poll_)

1998: BCS starts. Tennessee wins the first one against FSU.

Now, please explain why I am stupid and what errors I have made in the above post.
This post was edited on 4/16/10 at 3:04 am
Posted by Rocket
Member since Mar 2004
61117 posts
Posted on 4/16/10 at 2:37 am to
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His recruiting ability? Muschamp was a Safety in College correct?


Has nothing to do with his recruiting ability.

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That of course was Craig Loston form texas in February 2009. Hmm...I wonder if Willy knows something that John Chavis & Ron Cooper do not?


Maybe, maybe not. One thing is for sure, Muschamp will go on to greater success than Chavis and Cooper can only dream of.

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Nah...because when you start parting out a car..it ceases to be a car.


I'll tell you- Auburn. Auburn allowed fewer points per game than us.
This post was edited on 4/16/10 at 2:38 am
Posted by PRK
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 4/16/10 at 3:00 am to
Pelini is a Tiger.
Posted by cajunjj
Madison, AL
Member since May 2008
7427 posts
Posted on 4/16/10 at 8:59 am to
Muschamp.
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