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re: Who will admit O has exceeded expectations and is an upgrade from Les?
Posted on 5/2/19 at 3:01 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Posted on 5/2/19 at 3:01 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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5 loss division title..
In the ACC
How many divisional titles has O won in his career, regardless of conference?
ETA: I'll make it even easier. How many times has O even finished runner-up in his division in his career, regardless of conference?
This post was edited on 5/2/19 at 3:03 pm
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Posted on 5/2/19 at 3:02 pm to Topwater Trout
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yeh the 2016 & 2018 LSU teams were just as good as the 2011 team
We need to all come to an agreement about whether LSU's offenses sucked under Miles watch or not. "Cause I'm sure I've seen posts from some of the folks in this thread claim that all offenses under Miles were trash and that last years offense under o was the best we've had in years.
And as far as offenses go, the 2016 and 2018 offenses were ranked higher nationally in total offense than the 2011 offense.
This post was edited on 5/2/19 at 3:06 pm
Posted on 5/2/19 at 3:02 pm to Topwater Trout
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We have sucked offensively in all 3
Hopefully, all that changes the next time we clash.
Posted on 5/2/19 at 3:04 pm to Damone
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regardless of conference?
He's been in the SEC West for most of his career
shite, a PAC12 team won their division with a losing record.
I'm kind of looking forward to 2019 though, being a little optimistic and excited about this coming season, you know...like a fan does..and not spending all my energy like you finding things to cry and complain about regarding the program
Posted on 5/2/19 at 3:07 pm to Damone
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It was definitely that single play and not LSU's offense taking its merry time to run two plays in 1:08 with only 1:45 on the clock.
It was fantastic clock management
Score with no time on the clock No wonder you hate the guy. You don't even understand WTF you're watching.
Now, if you want to gripe about the way the game was managed, you would point to the fact that Orgeron let Fournette talk him into playing when he clearly wasn't healthy.
Posted on 5/2/19 at 3:11 pm to Topwater Trout
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people wanted him fired before the season many of the ones in this thread were talking about firing him after season 2...
It's nice to see that o was finally being treated the same way that Miles had been treated his entire time at LSU.
I guess I was wrong when I said there was a different set of standards for each coach.
Posted on 5/2/19 at 3:12 pm to earl keese
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We need to all come to an agreement about whether LSU's offenses sucked under Miles watch or not.
Miles had some good ones, he also had some terrible ones.
He really struggled after Jimbo left to find someone that could work with QB's.
Regardless of offense Les usually had some really competitive teams. He seemed to lose control in 2014 though.
Posted on 5/2/19 at 3:15 pm to earl keese
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people wanted him fired before the season many of the ones in this thread were talking about firing him after season 2...
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It's nice to see that o was finally being treated the same way that Miles had been treated his entire time at LSU.
Some "fan"
Posted on 5/2/19 at 3:16 pm to Damone
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It was definitely that single play and not LSU's offense taking its merry time to run two plays in 1:08 with only 1:45 on the clock.
we were inside the 10 and trying to run clock, it's smart clock management.
Posted on 5/2/19 at 3:17 pm to Damone
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That has nothing to do with what we're discussing, you only bring that up to try and draw a comparison between the two coaches in an attempt to argue that O deserves just as much time.
My take on this. Clemson was a middle of pack ACC team. Dabo BUILT Clemson. He turned them into a yearly championship contender with NFL talent. His leash was longer to win because the expectation to win 11/12 games was nonexistent. O came into the program with a legacy of NFL talent & NC wins. If O was to remotely go anywhere near 6-7 like Dabo did in his third year he’d be out the door no questions asked because the expectation is to win big at LSU. Dabo changed the course of that program. 10-4 the next year, 11-2 beat LSU in a bowl, then proceeded to go to 3 national championships & 2 major bowl games. He’s lost 4 games in the last 4 years. There’s a difference between being handed the keys & making the damn keys yourself.
Dabo not only recruits QBs but they produce. 4 of them. Boyd, Watson, Bryant, & now Lawerence. Any one of those guys you’d plug in for LSU, even Bryant. But he’s also had great hires.
Posted on 5/2/19 at 3:17 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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You mean the RB running the wrong way?
After a time out. When the coaches should have had everyone on the same page.
Seems to me that Miles was grilled for those kind of player mistakes when he was the coach.
Afterall, everything that happens falls at the feet of the head coach. Be it good or bad.
Posted on 5/2/19 at 3:18 pm to Topwater Trout
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we were inside the 10 and trying to run clock, it's smart clock management.
Shows how much Damone actually knows about football.
Posted on 5/2/19 at 3:19 pm to GeauxTX2
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His leash was longer to win because the expectation to win 11/12 games was nonexistent.
Not really. He was almost fired year two. Boosters and board members wanted him gone, only the AD had faith in him.
SHows the fickle nature of people when they don't get the hire they want.
Posted on 5/2/19 at 3:22 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Some "fan"
Right back at ya dancing banana emoji "fan"
Posted on 5/2/19 at 3:25 pm to RogerTheShrubber
LSU had a stout defense and an inept offense. What was more important: time enough for the offense to be able to utilize it's full playbook or not leaving enough time for the UF offense to possibly score with limited time? Actually, don't answer that, you aren't intellectually honest enough to do it correctly. There's a reason the announcers were ripping on LSU in the moment for letting so much clock bleed before even having a first and goal.
Posted on 5/2/19 at 3:25 pm to earl keese
Yeah, you don't care about the program, you just want the staff to get bashed simply because your idol did
That's pathetic.
Just so you know, the most vocal "Miles Haters" are on your team right now as Orgeron haters.
That's pathetic.
Just so you know, the most vocal "Miles Haters" are on your team right now as Orgeron haters.
This post was edited on 5/2/19 at 3:26 pm
Posted on 5/2/19 at 3:29 pm to lsu2006
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Can you try and simplify it for my simple brain?
He'd have an easier time flying to Jupiter.
Posted on 5/2/19 at 3:32 pm to Topwater Trout
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we were inside the 10 and trying to run clock, it's smart clock management.
LSU was on the 18 yard line with a first and ten with the clock stopped at 1:53.
They ran their first and ten play at 1:45, gaining 5 yards to the 13.
The play was blown dead at 1:40 and LSU didn't run another play until 1:05.
LSU got inside the 10 yard line with a first down at :59
They then inexplicably didn't run a play until :37.
In 1:16, LSU picked up a whopping 12 yards
For an offense as bad as LSU's was, it was horrendously bad to slow down and limit themselves in that situation, as recognized by the announcers. It was terrible coaching.
Posted on 5/2/19 at 3:32 pm to RedTigerRulz
By the way guys, glad to see this little gem is still going.
We need one of these kind of threads every month or so...its cathartic. 
We need one of these kind of threads every month or so...its cathartic.
Posted on 5/2/19 at 3:33 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Shows how much Damone actually knows about football.
He wanted to run a hurry up and give UF over a minute of clock bc we had a stout defense
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