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re: Who will admit O has exceeded expectations and is an upgrade from Les?
Posted on 5/1/19 at 9:39 am to RogerTheShrubber
Posted on 5/1/19 at 9:39 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Maybe. But I understand what potentially means.
So you're not predicting the offense will be good?
Who knew you were such a negatiger and didnt believe in the new recruits and the Brady hire.
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Posted on 5/1/19 at 9:39 am to Rickdaddy4188
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You're expecting the offense to be good in 2019.
Based on potential, everyone is.
Execution will be the x factor.
Would you like me to define "potential" again?
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You're touting future offensive production
You're such a waterhead... This post was edited on 5/1/19 at 9:41 am
Posted on 5/1/19 at 9:39 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Who's tearing it down? Everyone acknowledges beating Ohio State was awesome.
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Anytime you lost two games it's going to take an awful lot of luck to get to the NCG. This isn't subjective.
It's simply a response to the people who get upset about 2007, then claim being ranked 6th in 2018 means nothing.
And it just so happened that 4 of the teams ranked above us in 2018 all lost. That's pretty rare for a 5 spot jump in the last polls. Rare, that means pretty lucky.
If we were "lucky" to win the 2007 NC, then we were "lucky" to finish at #6. Remember, prior to bowl selection Fiesta seemed like somewhat of a long shot. We got it, against a team ranked higher than us. We don't get selected there, maybe UCF wins and we finish 10. What if other games go differently. A 10-3 team finishing 6th is pretty flukey.
2017 - UCF is 6th with 13-0 Record
2016 OSU is 6th with an 11-2 Record
2015 MSU is 6th with a 12-2 record
2014 MSU and FSU are tied at 5th with 13-1 and 11-2
2013 Oklahoma is 6th with an 11-2 record
Shall I keep going?
Posted on 5/1/19 at 9:40 am to Rickdaddy4188
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Am I supposed to lie about his record against sec teams that finished with less than 5 losses?
5 losses...the same number of losses each team had that beat us in 2007
Posted on 5/1/19 at 9:40 am to Topwater Trout
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5 losses...the same number of losses each team had that beat us in 2007
Stop trying to make that comparison work, it's never going to happen.
Posted on 5/1/19 at 9:41 am to Freauxzen
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And it just so happened that 4 of the teams ranked above us in 2018 all lost.
Absolutely
I think you're getting the correlation now.
Posted on 5/1/19 at 9:41 am to RedTigerRulz
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He should have been fired for this transgression alone. Our QB for the last several years of his tenure was more than embarrassing.
HC arent judged by qb production.
Good grief red. You're way better than that stance
Posted on 5/1/19 at 9:42 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Absolutely
I think you're getting the correlation now.
Yeah so 2018 was extremely lucky. No skill. Was not a good season, pure luck that some teams lost and we finished 6th. So it isn't a big accomplishment.
That sucks, I thought last year was ok, not great, not bad. I was unaware that it was a lucky season. That's disappointing.
This post was edited on 5/1/19 at 9:43 am
Posted on 5/1/19 at 9:42 am to Topwater Trout
Les won 2 SEC, 1 national championship and played in 1. Went undefeated regular season.
So far O hasn't achieved a single one of this. How has he exceeded Les? I want to work for you. Coast all day and get paid
So far O hasn't achieved a single one of this. How has he exceeded Les? I want to work for you. Coast all day and get paid
Posted on 5/1/19 at 9:43 am to Freauxzen
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If we were "lucky" to win the 2007 NC, then we were "lucky" to finish at #6.
We were lucky both years...do you really dispute that?
Posted on 5/1/19 at 9:43 am to Rickdaddy4188
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So you're not predicting the offense will be good?
Absolutely based on potential. However I'm not promising it will be great.
You would too if you knew anything about the sport.
Everything is in place.
Posted on 5/1/19 at 9:44 am to glorymanutdtiger
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So far O hasn't achieved a single one of this
he has had 2 years
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How has he exceeded Les?
he hasn't
Posted on 5/1/19 at 9:44 am to Topwater Trout
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We were lucky both years...do you really dispute that?
Every national champion needs some things to bounce their way to win. Not sure why you're harping on '07 as some abnormality.
Posted on 5/1/19 at 9:44 am to Topwater Trout
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We were lucky both years...do you really dispute that?
Well then last year wasn't really a great accomplishment. Of course I don't dispute that. I dispute saying that 2007 was a "lucky" year while 2018 was a GREAT, AMAZING, PHENOMENAL achievement that proves O is an upgrade.
Again, this is all about holding O to the same standards, which many people don't want to do. Finishing 6th is barely an accomplishment.
This post was edited on 5/1/19 at 9:46 am
Posted on 5/1/19 at 9:44 am to LNCHBOX
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Etling and Mett weren't embarrassing
Im talking taken as a whole....Miles did not excel at developing Qbs...which hurt us greatly.
Posted on 5/1/19 at 9:44 am to Topwater Trout
Unless you go start out ranked in the top 4 and 15-0, you need a measure of luck to obtain any form of success. Even then, winning individual games takes a measure of luck. A whole season's worth of games comes down to a lot of preparation, execution and a lot of luck.
Posted on 5/1/19 at 9:45 am to RedTigerRulz
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Im talking taken as a whole.
But on the whole those two guys got better. So now you're limiting it to just the two bad guys to try to make your point.
Posted on 5/1/19 at 9:46 am to LNCHBOX
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Stop trying to make that comparison work, it's never going to happen.
why do you hate facts? we lost to 2 unranked 8-5 teams in 2007...FACT!
Posted on 5/1/19 at 9:46 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Absolutely based on potential. However I'm not promising it will be great.
Then you're the one acting clairvoyant dumbass. You're touting future events that may not happen. I'm not shocked you cant admit that statement was utterly ignorant.
You tout future events and then say someone else is acting clairvoyant.
Posted on 5/1/19 at 9:47 am to Topwater Trout
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why do you hate facts? we lost to 2 unranked 8-5 teams in 2007...FACT!
And we won a national championship instead of finishing 3rd in our division because it was a completely different year.
You cannot possibly actually be this stupid, but you're doing a great job of giving the appearance.
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