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Posted on 6/29/09 at 12:08 pm to Sammich
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Of course I expect you to be gone when JL leaves,
pretty much
Posted on 6/29/09 at 12:11 pm to TheDoc
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true.
I've also seen Peyton Manning throw 3-4 interceptions(I think in 1 half) against the Partiots and Chargers in the last couple of seasons. But if you want to delude yourself and think that Jefferson is the only QB in the history of football who is incapable of having a bad stretch, go right ahead.
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but from the limited time JJ has had playing/starting, he doesn't make me hold my breath when he drops back to throw.
You do realize that what you do or don't do with your breath has absolutely zero bearing on the performance of our players, right?
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he seems to be quite careful with the ball for the most part.
I agree, but he hasn't played much at all. He is still very, very inexperienced. How will he do against Florida's speed and scheme? How will do in between the Hedges in his 1st real road test at Georgia? How will he do against Saban's blitz packages? Even Gene Chizik at Auburn is/was a great defensive cooridator. We all think he'll be great, but he hasn't come even remotely close to the pressure and physicality of playing in the SEC week in and week out. He will struggle. Let's just hope you and your brethren don't turn on him like you did Lee.
Posted on 6/29/09 at 12:13 pm to Sammich
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Shepard has been compared favorably to both Vince Young & Terrelle Pryor.
What does that have to do with the price of tea in China? And he's a much different player than those 2 guys. They are both 5 inches taller than him. That's a big difference in the passing game. The point is that no backup QB should be taking more than 1/4 of the snaps from the starter. If he's that good, let him start.
Posted on 6/29/09 at 12:22 pm to Hot Carl
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The point is that no backup QB should be taking more than 1/4 of the snaps from the starter.
Why? This worked nearly to perfection with Hodson/Guidry.
Posted on 6/29/09 at 12:36 pm to Hot Carl
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incapable
I didn't say impossible, I said not likely.
Posted on 6/29/09 at 1:00 pm to Sammich
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Shepard has been compared favorably to both Vince Young & Terrelle Pryor.
both are spread option QBs
Posted on 6/29/09 at 1:02 pm to TheDoc
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pretty much
do you really believe this?
That had to be one stupidest fuking post Ive read on here.. and thats saying somthing.
Posted on 6/29/09 at 1:06 pm to TheDoc
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lee - 8 games
jeff - 3 games
53%
49%
269 attempts
73 attempts
whats your point?
Posted on 6/29/09 at 1:07 pm to BT
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53%
49%
appy state
north texas
MSU
tulane
Posted on 6/29/09 at 1:09 pm to SlowFlowPro
uga
usc
au
bama
fla
arky and gatech?
come sfp ..its a push.
usc
au
bama
fla
arky and gatech?
come sfp ..its a push.
Posted on 6/29/09 at 1:36 pm to BT
I'd put money on jefferson not throwing 16 picks in 8 games.
But its after the fact now of course.
What I was saying was you bring up 53 and 49 percent, when lee got to play 4 terrible teams, and still managed to play poorly in 2 of them.
But its after the fact now of course.
What I was saying was you bring up 53 and 49 percent, when lee got to play 4 terrible teams, and still managed to play poorly in 2 of them.
Posted on 6/29/09 at 1:39 pm to TheDoc
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I'd put money on jefferson not throwing 16 picks in 8 games.
i agree
Id also put money on JL not thrwoing 16 more picks in 8 games.
Last yr is gone dude... let it go.
A better JL makes for a better JJ and ultimalty a better football team.
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What I was saying was you bring up 53 and 49 percent, when lee got to play 4 terrible teams, and still managed to play poorly in 2 of them.
true, but did it surprise you the JL/AH/JJ played poorly an ANY game... they are first yr qbs.... its not really an uncomomon thing.
This post was edited on 6/29/09 at 1:42 pm
Posted on 6/29/09 at 1:46 pm to BT
Lee threw 16 picks in 11 games. Not that it's a whole lot better, but it does merit being pointed out. Also, Jefferson played in 3 of those 4 "horrible team" games.
Saying that Lee had a better completion % because he played more games doesn't make sense either.
To get back to the point of the thread, and away from the Lee vs. Jefferson debate, I'd say Jefferson starts the season with Lee close at hand. His leash will be long enough to give him a chance, but short enough to keep him from hanging himself with it.
Saying that Lee had a better completion % because he played more games doesn't make sense either.
To get back to the point of the thread, and away from the Lee vs. Jefferson debate, I'd say Jefferson starts the season with Lee close at hand. His leash will be long enough to give him a chance, but short enough to keep him from hanging himself with it.
Posted on 6/29/09 at 1:49 pm to jmath23lsu
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Saying that Lee had a better completion % because he played more games doesn't make sense either.
thats not what Im saying.. Im saying its basically a wash.
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To get back to the point of the thread, and away from the Lee vs. Jefferson debate, I'd say Jefferson starts the season with Lee close at hand. His leash will be long enough to give him a chance, but short enough to keep him from hanging himself with it.
I agree.
Posted on 6/29/09 at 2:00 pm to BT
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It's hard for me to understand how people such as yourself and your friend gotygers and others beleive that if JJ got hurt, was ineffective, transfered, or aliens abducted him that RS would come in in front of JL.... the guy as a redshrit fresh started 8 games for us last season and outside an injury would more than likely have finished the season under center.
To believe it is foolish enough... to WANT IT to happen is well.
It truly shows how little about football you know.
to believe it is foolish? How little we know? Your the only one basically saying these things, the rest of us are on the same page that JJ will be the starter. Jarrett Lee will see some snaps here and there, and Russell Shepard will come in when Crowton feels like getting fancy.
Posted on 6/29/09 at 2:35 pm to BT
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Id also put money on JL not thrwoing 16 more picks in 8 games.
of course not.
he won't (more than likely) play in 8 games.
Posted on 6/29/09 at 2:36 pm to BT
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A better JL makes for a better JJ and ultimalty a better football team.
well of course.
it's always good to have a backup that has big game experience.
Posted on 6/29/09 at 2:44 pm to jmath23lsu
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Lee threw 16 picks in 11 games.
just for clarity's sake
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Also, Jefferson played in 3 of those 4 "horrible team" games.
what?
JJ played in the:
1. arky game
2. ole miss game
3. georgia tech game
you can't count the tulane game, or miss st where he ran the ball one time, and handed it off a bunch.
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Saying that Lee had a better completion % because he played more games doesn't make sense either.
he played against "lesser" teams like:
1. app st
2. tulane
3. north texas
4. troy
and even then, he got WORSE as the season went on, not better. he regressed, instead of progressing.
Posted on 6/29/09 at 2:56 pm to TheDoc
So you don't want to count games where Jefferson attempted a pass? Seems as though that would have an overall effect on his completion percentage wouldn't it? And if you want to bring in level of competition, Lee still completed a higher percentage of passes. What's your point there?
Why are you quoting me saying he threw 16 picks in 11 games?
Way to take it immediatly back to a "Jefferson is better than Lee" thread. Because there aren't fifty thousand of these already.
Why are you quoting me saying he threw 16 picks in 11 games?
Way to take it immediatly back to a "Jefferson is better than Lee" thread. Because there aren't fifty thousand of these already.
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