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re: What did JJ do that was so bad in the 1st half?
Posted on 12/4/11 at 12:56 am to RogerTheShrubber
Posted on 12/4/11 at 12:56 am to RogerTheShrubber
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I leaned that way, but bought into that for sure..today.
Just a reminder: the "ship" won by 4.5 TD's with JJ at the helm.
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Posted on 12/4/11 at 12:57 am to Tiger JJ
People bitching about the 1 knee Lee got should probably think back to how the end of the game went. I imagine that without the Claiborne pick 6, Lee would have gotten in there to at least hand off for a drive. I think the knee was the first offensive play we had in the last 8 minutes or so of the game.
Jefferson played pretty poorly tonight throwing the ball. Lee might or might not have played any better. I think if we don't get the really short fields and quick scores in the 3rd we may have seen Lee, but who knows. The game went from dicey to over with a quickness because of the turnovers and punt returns. I actually buy the argument that there just wasn't a good spot to put Lee into the game tonight more than I have most of the time.
Jefferson played pretty poorly tonight throwing the ball. Lee might or might not have played any better. I think if we don't get the really short fields and quick scores in the 3rd we may have seen Lee, but who knows. The game went from dicey to over with a quickness because of the turnovers and punt returns. I actually buy the argument that there just wasn't a good spot to put Lee into the game tonight more than I have most of the time.
Posted on 12/4/11 at 12:58 am to yungtigr
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People bitching about the 1 knee Lee got should probably think back to how the end of the game went. I imagine that without the Claiborne pick 6, Lee would have gotten in there to at least hand off for a drive. I think the knee was the first offensive play we had in the last 8 minutes or so of the game.
Jefferson played pretty poorly tonight throwing the ball. Lee might or might not have played any better. I think if we don't get the really short fields and quick scores in the 3rd we may have seen Lee, but who knows. The game went from dicey to over with a quickness because of the turnovers and punt returns. I actually buy the argument that there just wasn't a good spot to put Lee into the game tonight more than I have most of the time.
Agreed. And it's just really unclear to me what was to be gained. What part of the outcome were the fans unhappy with?
Posted on 12/4/11 at 1:01 am to Tiger JJ
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Just a reminder: the "ship" won by 4.5 TD's with JJ at the helm.
Pretty sure that was inconsequential. The QB position on this team is the most overrated position . I really don't care who the QB is, but Miles use of QB's in garbage time, and now when JJ was really struggling opens some natural questions.
This post was edited on 12/4/11 at 1:02 am
Posted on 12/4/11 at 1:03 am to Tiger JJ
two of those were short field scores, fumble recover and tmat punt return to 17, the other was a defensive score. One other was a Blue break out near 50 yarder. I just think that it comes down to human nature, I think LSU has a pretty solid blue color fan base, they want to win, but they also want their team to represent them, honest hard working guys who get rewarded at the end of the day. I think that's where the Jlee love comes from, they pull for an underdog. I think Mother Teresa could come in for the back half of the season and get handed the reigns and people would be pissed. it's not so much jordan, it's a perfect storm of shite stacked against him, the suspension, the crap play, the cherry picking touchdowns that he got early in the year, it's small stuff, sure, but that's my take on why so many people are up in arms over the qb thing.
Posted on 12/4/11 at 1:03 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Pretty sure that was inconsequential
Then what are people complaining about?
Posted on 12/4/11 at 1:06 am to RogerTheShrubber
yeah LSU would have dominated whether it was lee passing for 30 yrds and handing off or the fact that it was JJ throwing for 30 yrds and handing off.
I just think it was classless to put lee in for a one snap kneel down Lee should have been conveniently absent from anyone being able to find him at that time. Lsu had no more time outs so JJ would have had to go in and kneel down if Lee could not be found in time.
I just think it was classless to put lee in for a one snap kneel down Lee should have been conveniently absent from anyone being able to find him at that time. Lsu had no more time outs so JJ would have had to go in and kneel down if Lee could not be found in time.
Posted on 12/4/11 at 1:06 am to bulldog95
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Its hard to run when the defense is selling out for the run cause they know your QB wouldn't be able to complete a pass if everyone on the defense had on blinders and couldn't see.
well said, i figured all the JJ lovers would blame the Oline, they did it all last year/along with crowton, funny crowton didnt seem to bother Jlee was in the game last year or affect JJ's bowl game...
this is retarded , they guy played like crap and everyone that loves JJ blames the O-line...shits getting deep in here...
Posted on 12/4/11 at 1:06 am to noonan
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Then what are people complaining about?
I can't speak for the complaining, but it's a pretty big curiosity for many of us. Guy was a starter for over half the year and now gets the mercy knee, in blowouts and when the other guy is struggling.
People made a big deal out of the academic thing, but mainly to justify what they saw happening.
Even last year when JJ struggled Lee got a few possessions and now he can't get one? Of course people will wonder.
Posted on 12/4/11 at 1:09 am to Sports2
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it's a perfect storm of shite stacked against him, the suspension, the crap play, the cherry picking touchdowns that he got early in the year, it's small stuff, sure, but that's my take on why so many people are up in arms over the qb thing.
Seems pretty ridiculous to have a portion of the fan base so up in arms about this when the team is enjoying its most successful ever. That is the problem with this fan base. There always has to be something to complain about.
I don't care what the reasoning is. If you are that miserable about a 13-0 season with an SEC Title and a BCS Champ game birth because your favorite player isn't playing, then you have problems.
Posted on 12/4/11 at 1:10 am to BeeFense5
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If you are that miserable about a 13-0 season with an SEC Title and a BCS Champ game birth because your favorite player isn't playing, then you have problems.
And you have been complaining all day long.
Be happy. Some people are curious. If you don't understand it, don't participate.
This post was edited on 12/4/11 at 1:13 am
Posted on 12/4/11 at 1:12 am to BeeFense5
you said it, people need to have something to complain about, your complaint is that you don't get those people. ha. it makes the world go round I guess.
it's lsu football, people are passionate about it to extreme levels, rarely does it make sense, but it sure makes it fun if you can keep that in perspective. enjoy the 13-0 season and one more to go, take it easy.
it's lsu football, people are passionate about it to extreme levels, rarely does it make sense, but it sure makes it fun if you can keep that in perspective. enjoy the 13-0 season and one more to go, take it easy.
Posted on 12/4/11 at 1:12 am to BeeFense5
seems pretty ridiculous that you and Team JJ crew can't admit he played like crap today 
Posted on 12/4/11 at 1:13 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Be happy.
Im extremely happy.
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Some people are curious
Yeah, "curious" is what people on here are.
Im convinced that you selectively read on here and never see the posts that the rest of us do.
Posted on 12/4/11 at 1:13 am to TigerFan55555
the o-line did play crappy but when you have 5 men blocking 7, well its kind of hard to block everyone. georgia was in a 3-4 defense. thats 2 men over the guards, 1 nose guard, 2 men playing outside shoulder of the tackle or TE, and 2 LB's playing the gaps between the 2 defensive guards/ends.
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hard to run against these two defenses unless you are using 2 TE formations with a FB and RB which LSU was not doing at best they had 1 TE and a FB sometimes. Also hard to pass block when your TE's and RB's are going out in pass patterns and not helping you lineman to block.
JLee would also have not had much success except for the fact that georgia would not have been able to play this defensive package with Lee's passing ability. JJ completes some of his earlier throws and LSU would have run for over 300 yrds tonight and passes for about 200.
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hard to run against these two defenses unless you are using 2 TE formations with a FB and RB which LSU was not doing at best they had 1 TE and a FB sometimes. Also hard to pass block when your TE's and RB's are going out in pass patterns and not helping you lineman to block.
JLee would also have not had much success except for the fact that georgia would not have been able to play this defensive package with Lee's passing ability. JJ completes some of his earlier throws and LSU would have run for over 300 yrds tonight and passes for about 200.
This post was edited on 12/4/11 at 1:15 am
Posted on 12/4/11 at 1:14 am to BeeFense5
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Im convinced that you selectively read on here and never see the posts that the rest of us do.
No, you see several posts and assume everyone is just like that.
Posted on 12/4/11 at 1:14 am to Tiger in Austin
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seems pretty ridiculous that you and Team JJ crew can't admit he played like crap today
When did I say he didn't play like crap?
Posted on 12/4/11 at 1:14 am to TigerFan55555
quote:So you feel the o-line play was adequate?
well said, i figured all the JJ lovers would blame the Oline, they did it all last year/along with crowton, funny crowton didnt seem to bother Jlee was in the game last year or affect JJ's bowl game... this is retarded , they guy played like crap and everyone that loves JJ blames the O-line...shits getting deep in here...
Posted on 12/4/11 at 1:14 am to BeeFense5
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I don't care what the reasoning is. If you are that miserable about a 13-0 season with an SEC Title and a BCS Champ game birth because your favorite player isn't playing, then you have problems.
I don't think its really making anyone miserable. Its pretty perplexing the way it has all gone down though. It's just something to talk about. Sports fandom is a talking sport after all.
I want JLee to play because I made a bet with some friends that he'd be an all SEC QB by his senior season half way through 08 and he was well on his way to proving me right before Alabama. If you don't think it's downright strange that 1 half of bad football can have someone go from one of the most efficient QBs in the conference to riding pine completely then I don't know what to tell you.
Posted on 12/4/11 at 1:19 am to yungtigr
I agree downright mysterious,
I am 100% behind LSU team as a whole. I am very glad they are 13-0 and soon to be 14-0, I just question miles reasoning behind his treatment of JLee.
I also said that if JJ was innocent he should be brought back and play in certain packages because we would need his legs to defeat alabama and possibly some other teams as well, I just believe his inability to pass the ball consistently hinders our O-line and passing game to the extent that defenses can T-off on our RB's and O-line and make it more difficult at first to run our offense.
I am 100% behind LSU team as a whole. I am very glad they are 13-0 and soon to be 14-0, I just question miles reasoning behind his treatment of JLee.
I also said that if JJ was innocent he should be brought back and play in certain packages because we would need his legs to defeat alabama and possibly some other teams as well, I just believe his inability to pass the ball consistently hinders our O-line and passing game to the extent that defenses can T-off on our RB's and O-line and make it more difficult at first to run our offense.
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