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re: We've seen this before...2012
Posted on 9/14/15 at 9:08 am to colors_of_kings
Posted on 9/14/15 at 9:08 am to colors_of_kings
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but it works.
Except when it doesn't. Which was 5 times last year.
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The Tigers are a "win the line of scrimmage team", get over it!
We weren't winning the line of scrimmage in that 4th quarter Saturday night.
Last 4 LSU drives
5 plays, Punt TOP 1:56
3 plays, Punt TOP 2:05
9 plays, Punt TOP 4:46
5 plays, Punt TOP 2:23
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Posted on 9/14/15 at 9:11 am to Choupique19
Just because they want to win the line of scrimmage doesn't mean they do it, it's the goal.
Posted on 9/14/15 at 9:12 am to Choupique19
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We weren't winning the line of scrimmage in that 4th quarter Saturday night.
Last 4 LSU drives
5 plays, Punt TOP 1:56
3 plays, Punt TOP 2:05
9 plays, Punt TOP 4:46
5 plays, Punt TOP 2:23
So running off over 9 minutes of the 4th quarter is bad now? Yes, it would have been nice to get some points, but dominating the TOP by almost 2:1 in the final quarter was a big factor in us winning.
Posted on 9/14/15 at 9:17 am to GFunk
Yes we have seen this before. We've been talking about it for at least 5 years. Only it just hit me that the problem isn't the quarterback's fault, or the O.C's fault, or the defensive coordinator's fault. It's the head coach. Even when we change the QB from Jennings to Harris, the offense looks exactly the same (even though it's clearly a QB upgrade). Change the DC, LSU looks the same--take the lead in the first quarter and essentially tell the D it's on them to win the game. It's amazing that Chavis stayed as long as he did. I feel ashamed that I actually blamed Chavis, Jennings, JJ, JL, Stud, and the many other scapegoats for being the problem. It obviously aint them. Downvote away.
This post was edited on 9/14/15 at 9:19 am
Posted on 9/14/15 at 9:18 am to LNCHBOX
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Instead, all you do is focus on all the negatives, even when we win. That shite gets old, and it' all you do.
I discuss the topics on the board. I thought fans were supposed to discuss their teams on a team message board. With the exception of how conservative the offense became after we went up 14-0 I said nothing negative about Saturday nights game. Certainly nothing that would even remotely imply I wasn't happy we won the game. Showing concern is bad...got it!
Posted on 9/14/15 at 9:19 am to colors_of_kings
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True, Les Miles play calling is about as sexy as grandma's night gown collection, but it works.
No it didn't.
Msu lost the game. We didn't win it.
Posted on 9/14/15 at 9:19 am to CptBengal
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We didn't win it.
No. We won the game.
Posted on 9/14/15 at 9:19 am to minvielle
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Only it just hit me that the problem isn't the quarterback's fault
Yea, Jennings was awesome.
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Even when we change the QB from Jennings to Harris, the offense looks exactly the same (even though it's clearly an upgrade)
Wut? You can't say it looks exactly the same and then say it's an upgrade.
Posted on 9/14/15 at 9:20 am to CptBengal
I had almost forgotten how much extra stupid you serve up during football season.
Posted on 9/14/15 at 9:20 am to CptBengal
The defense is a part of the game too, we absolutely won the game!
Posted on 9/14/15 at 9:21 am to LNCHBOX
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I had almost forgotten how much extra stupid you serve up during football season.
Meant the QB. But deflect away.
Posted on 9/14/15 at 9:21 am to BeeFense5
Praying the opponent gets a penalty to back then into a really long field goal and then hopeing they miss isn't winning.
It's them losing.
It's them losing.
Posted on 9/14/15 at 9:22 am to GFunk
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2008, 2009, 2010, 2012 and 2014 were all atrocious years on offense for LSU. Unfortunately, that's 5 out of the last 7 years. Miles needs to look himself in the mirror for the recruiting mistakes, issues with coaching hires and sundry other issues that brought him to where he is. He's got no one more responsible for it than himself. But he's the head coach and it'll always be that way. People preaching for patience are honestly lacking in perspective. He's had an incredibly long time to right the offensive ship and people are tired of the thought of a guy making 4 million and an OC being paid over a million a year, respectively, being unable to field a balanced offense that can make plays through the air. Recruiting misevals, attrition, off-the-field issues, whatever. Eventually you have to be accountable. Circumstances can only be described as extenuating for so long before people begin to view them as excuses. We've reached that tipping point within the LSU Fanbase. Not taking sides or saying anyone is right or wrong for feeling how they do. I'm just pointing out how and why folks have reached this point.
THIS. 100% CORRECT.
Posted on 9/14/15 at 9:22 am to CptBengal
That's just one drive, and the fact that our defense FORCED them into a long field goal they couldn't make is what won the game.
This post was edited on 9/14/15 at 9:25 am
Posted on 9/14/15 at 9:23 am to CptBengal
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Praying the opponent gets a penalty to back then into a really long field goal and then hopeing they miss isn't winning.
It's them losing.
Scoring more points is winning. We scored more.
Posted on 9/14/15 at 9:25 am to colors_of_kings
So outside of 2006, 2007 and 2013, when has les opened the offense?
Don't say 2011 because we had a lot of short fields from turnovers from the defense.
Don't say 2011 because we had a lot of short fields from turnovers from the defense.
Posted on 9/14/15 at 9:25 am to LNCHBOX
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So running off over 9 minutes of the 4th quarter is bad now? Yes, it would have been nice to get some points, but dominating the TOP by almost 2:1 in the final quarter was a big factor in us winning.
One of those drives was from the 3rd quarter.
LSU's TOP was 9:14, yet if Miss State doesn't receive a delay of game penalty we have a 75% chance of losing.
Posted on 9/14/15 at 9:26 am to colors_of_kings
My God!!!
People aren't aggravated that LSU won in a tough environment Sat. night. The frustration comes from the fact that that in a game where LSU was clearly the better and more dominant team from the start, the HC purposely went VERY conservative and chose to sit on a good, but not huge lead the entire 2nd half and allowed an opponent that shouldn't have even been in the game late the opportunity to win the game at the gun. The frustration comes from the fact that this is not the first time we've seen this kind of scenario play out and the understanding that the HC is likely to take the same approach in future games where he may not be as lucky to have the opposing team miss their shot to win. The frustration comes not because LSU didn't throw the ball 25+ times, but from the fact that the HC sent a message to his team and starting QB that he doesn't trust the QB. This, on a night where the QB (and WRs) was not just "managing" the game, but playing well and making big plays
The thought process of those who are frustrated is that while LSU was able to "escape" this time, they may not be so fortunate later in the season and it's all because of the HC's unnecessary approach. If the goal is to go 8-3, 9-2, then fine. But I think most would agree that this team has a lot of very talented players and 2-3 would be a disappointment. It's already tough to win in the SEC. Why hamstring yourself on nights when you don't have to?
People aren't aggravated that LSU won in a tough environment Sat. night. The frustration comes from the fact that that in a game where LSU was clearly the better and more dominant team from the start, the HC purposely went VERY conservative and chose to sit on a good, but not huge lead the entire 2nd half and allowed an opponent that shouldn't have even been in the game late the opportunity to win the game at the gun. The frustration comes from the fact that this is not the first time we've seen this kind of scenario play out and the understanding that the HC is likely to take the same approach in future games where he may not be as lucky to have the opposing team miss their shot to win. The frustration comes not because LSU didn't throw the ball 25+ times, but from the fact that the HC sent a message to his team and starting QB that he doesn't trust the QB. This, on a night where the QB (and WRs) was not just "managing" the game, but playing well and making big plays
The thought process of those who are frustrated is that while LSU was able to "escape" this time, they may not be so fortunate later in the season and it's all because of the HC's unnecessary approach. If the goal is to go 8-3, 9-2, then fine. But I think most would agree that this team has a lot of very talented players and 2-3 would be a disappointment. It's already tough to win in the SEC. Why hamstring yourself on nights when you don't have to?
Posted on 9/14/15 at 9:30 am to GFunk
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Miles needs to look himself in the mirror for the recruiting mistakes, issues with coaching hires and sundry other issues that brought him to where he is. He's got no one more responsible for it than himself. But he's the head coach and it'll always be that way.
i swear....if i got all my info from this board i would think we just lost and had a 3 win season last year
This post was edited on 9/14/15 at 9:34 am
Posted on 9/14/15 at 9:32 am to Choupique19
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One of those drives was from the 3rd quarter.
LSU's TOP was 9:14, yet if Miss State doesn't receive a delay of game penalty we have a 75% chance of losing.
And if we didn't commit a couple "unnecessary to the success of the play" penalties, we have two more TDs at the very least. Ifs go both ways.
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