re: Well, this ESPN CFB documentary just took a dark turn

We’re going to have to agree to disagree here. It is impossible to watch that and not recognize clear undertones.

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Dude, it was 100% wrapped in a political ideology. You can’t ignore it no matter how hard you try given the current political climate. 

This isn’t a knock on you, but perhaps you need bring yourself up to speed on what’s happening in this country politically.

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I agree the political climate is awful right now. But people make it worse than what it needs to be. Liberals and Ultra Conservatives alike are just looking to be triggered and lash out over nothing. The anger over a simple documentary is amazing.

Yes, we’re so fragile in our whiteness. You can’t even pretend to be objective and not a full blown racist when your entire argument centers around, as you put it, whiteness at work.

You’re right about one thing. I do get it. Continue to chase that white boogey man as the rest of the country leaves you behind.

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You do get asked your race and if you are a latino on every application I have ever filled out. Whether it be online or paper application.

As well as if you are disabled

Or if you are ex military

They ask you all those things on a job application

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I've worked at 2 fortune companies and ran several job fairs for numerous companies. None ask race.

They technically CAN ask, but have to proof a legitimate use for that data, which is extrememly hard to prove.

Like many other things nowadays, too race oriented.

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How are blacks hired for their skin color? Thats an absolute foolish thing to say

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Ever heard of affirmative action?

It’s the reason that a good company with a good reputation and track record will be passed on for another company who has little to no experience. All because the more reputable company isn’t diverse enough. Companies know this, so they hire to be diversified enough to get the jobs.

It doesn’t just happen at the professional level either. Many universities give admission to students who have far worse academic records and credentials to other students solely because of their skin color. The university of Texas has been involved with lawsuits concerning this exact issue for some time now.

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its countless videos online of black people putting in job applications and identifying as black and not getting any calls. But once they put they are caucasian on the job applications thats when they get calls for interviews. Just shut the frick up you’re obviously biased

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Haha, well I hate to tell you this... but companies don’t give a damn about what color someone’s skin is. The only thing they care about is getting the job done efficiently and safely. I’ll tell you why companies tend to steer away from blacks. Poor attitude, entitlement issues, and the main reason is the likelihood that blacks will try and file a lawsuit for “discrimination”. Even though the very act that is supposedly discriminating against them has been done time and time again to others, and until now hasn’t warranted a lawsuit.

Until you take responsibility and accountability for your own decisions and actions, you will never see any improvement in your life. I don’t say that to be mean, I say that because it’s the same advice that helped me.

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Ever heard of affirmative action?

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While I agree with 99% of what you said. The affirmative action argument needs to stop being used. Maybe here in Louisiana its it mostly helps AA but on a national basis it mostly benefits Caucasian Women and that has been well documented. Plenty of info out there on it. What's really funny most of the women who benefit from it will tell you they are against it, without realizing it help them lol!

For the record I'm against it. But I kept seeing it throw around in this thread so I had to say something.

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TigerOnTheMountain: You’re a foolish racist unwilling to accept the failures of your own race. Instead preferring to not look for solutions, but to live in a never ending cycle of victim hood that demands everyone else accept blame for the perpetrators themselves.

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Are you assuming I'm not white? What on Earth makes you ascribe a race to me as I make my arguments? L O L. Indeed, this is an example of the aforementioned notion (which you laughed at) that whiteness can do real work in the world—here you have formed an image of me, of my skin color, based on the ideas I have espoused. I NEED you to reflect on how deep that is, how you've done this so easily and unabashedly.

Or were you assuming I'm white and were pointing out that it is people like you who fail to accept what white folks have done and continue to do (as you do now). And it is you who is playing the victim? Because that's what this thread has mainly been about.

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Do not fricking twist my words and take them out of context again. The mistakes of the past are in no way a reflection of culture in America currently. Arguing otherwise is yet another example of the failures of your own people.

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Your own words are revealing. I have twisted nothing. The twists, particularly the twists in logic, sir, are all yours.

And you are very right about at least one thing: Your actions here represent an example of a failure "of [my] own people."

It happens a lot in business, and I have personally witnessed companies who have amazing track records get passed by multiple times because they aren’t diverse enough. And they mean racially diverse. Trust me, they have plenty of women in their company.