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Posted on 7/10/19 at 4:49 pm to Madking
I could be wrong, but I believe all of hurts stats were created while playing for a conference opponent.
Posted on 7/10/19 at 4:51 pm to AlxPin
But he isn’t our opponent anymore. If somebody says that Mathew Stafford is a better QB than Burrow are they “jumping in to defend an opponent?”
This post was edited on 7/10/19 at 4:55 pm
Posted on 7/10/19 at 4:55 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
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Has it occurred to you that some individual(s) may have depth of knowledge that vastly exceeds yours in some esoteric area? Like a football position group or two?
And that depth of knowledge completely trumps any stats you may have available to you?
It's possible, but honestly, I can't take you seriously when you say it's not unlikely that Burrow puts up all-time great passing numbers in the SEC.
Two SEC QBs in the past 20 years (Mcelroy and Couch) have passed for 70% completion percentage or greater and you think it's a decent chance that Burrow does it, based on nothing but your bias. And you think people should take your knowledge seriously?
This post was edited on 7/10/19 at 4:59 pm
Posted on 7/10/19 at 4:57 pm to AlxPin
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I could be wrong, but I believe all of hurts stats were created while playing for a conference opponent
I didn't make the original comparison. I simply said that before it's all over with that Burrow will be the better QB and I don't see it as that much of a competition.
Posted on 7/10/19 at 4:57 pm to Goldrush25
“And that depth of knowledge completely trumps any stats you may have available to you? “
I literally spit out my drink when I read this lol. We have never and will never see anyone like Buckeye again. He’s the king of delusion and fairy tales.
I literally spit out my drink when I read this lol. We have never and will never see anyone like Buckeye again. He’s the king of delusion and fairy tales.
Posted on 7/10/19 at 4:59 pm to Goldrush25
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It's possible, but honestly, I can't take you seriously when you say it's not unlikely that Burrow puts up all-time great passing numbers in the SEC.
Two players in the past 20 years have passed for 70% completion percentage or greater and you think it's a decent chance that Burrow does it, based on nothing but your bias. And you think people should take your knowledge seriously?
You base your entire opinion on QBs on their stat sheet not by watching them play yet you want someone to take you seriously. I guess that's the nega way.
Posted on 7/10/19 at 5:01 pm to bencoleman
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You base your entire opinion on QBs on their stat sheet not by watching them play yet you want someone to take you seriously
So you think Burrow passes for 70%+ completion percentage, puts up 4000 yards and has a 5-1 TD/INT ratio this season?
Posted on 7/10/19 at 5:02 pm to bencoleman
But “better QB” is a tricky statement in the way you guys have been shaping it. Burrow is already a better thrower, forget completion percentage, some things are just obvious. But Hurts is a winner and the best running QB in college since Cam and when it comes to the college game being a running QB can be as important as being a passer.
Posted on 7/10/19 at 5:03 pm to Goldrush25
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So you think Burrow passes for 70%+ completion percentage, puts up 4000 yards and has a 5-1 TD/INT ratio this season
Those aren't my predictions. I'm not sure where you got that from but you didn't get them from me.
Posted on 7/10/19 at 5:05 pm to bencoleman
“You base your entire opinion on QBs on their stat sheet not by watching them play yet you want someone to take you seriously. I guess that's the nega way.”
This is called being objective and the fact that you’d smear someone for taking a fact based approach over a biased one just proves that you’re doing what you always do. And that’s accusing others of doing exactly what you’re doing.
This is called being objective and the fact that you’d smear someone for taking a fact based approach over a biased one just proves that you’re doing what you always do. And that’s accusing others of doing exactly what you’re doing.
Posted on 7/10/19 at 5:06 pm to bencoleman
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I'm satisfied with my conclusion they can't pick it apart although they'd love too.
Yeah it’s hard to pick apart something that is wholly lacking in substance. Instead of picking it apart I’ve simply asked what the basis for your conclusion is. Still no substance. Oh well
Posted on 7/10/19 at 5:08 pm to bencoleman
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I can't imagine anyone watching those two play and coming away with the opinion that Hurts is the better QB.
OK lets look at the systems that Hurts has been through. He is like 25-2 as a stater... LSU last year NEVER looked as good as Bama did when Hurts was the QB........
Posted on 7/10/19 at 5:08 pm to lsu2006
He’s stance is always the same and it goes like this... “I’m right you’re wrong, I don’t need facts, I don’t need proof and I don’t need reason because I believe I’m better than everyone else.”
That’s Bens take everytime on every topic. He literally just said “the only people who base their opinions on facts are negas.”
That’s Bens take everytime on every topic. He literally just said “the only people who base their opinions on facts are negas.”
This post was edited on 7/10/19 at 5:11 pm
Posted on 7/10/19 at 5:09 pm to Madking
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But “better QB” is a tricky statement in the way you guys have been shaping it. Burrow is already a better thrower, forget completion percentage, some things are just obvious. But Hurts is a winner and the best running QB in college since Cam and when it comes to the college game being a running QB can be as important as being a passer
I'm not trying to take anything away from Hurts but passing is part of the game too. While Burrow is nowhere near the athlete that hurts is he can run if he has too.
You have to consider the surrounding cast that Hurts was working with when he was playing at Bama.
I think that there could've been better comparisons that could've been made than Hurts and Burrow.
Posted on 7/10/19 at 5:11 pm to bencoleman
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Those aren't my predictions. I'm not sure where you got that from but you didn't get them from me.
So you think those are unrealistic numbers then?
Posted on 7/10/19 at 5:13 pm to bencoleman
I think Burrow is a better passer and if we were talking about the NFL game I think that would weigh heavily in Burrows favor. But college is very different, you can win it all with an offense built around a running QB so being a great runner is a much bigger feather in Hurts’ cap.
Posted on 7/10/19 at 5:19 pm to lsu2006
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eah it’s hard to pick apart something that is wholly lacking in substance. Instead of picking it apart I’ve simply asked what the basis for your conclusion is. Still no substance. Oh well
You don't know what it's based off of. I told you all that I've watched, rewatched and watched a third time. It's readily apparent which is the better QB. The good news is how I come to my conclusion is my business and I certainly don't owe any of you an explanation. If I'm wrong it'll be showing fairly early in the season that Burrow isn't the QB that I thought he was. Feel free to call me out over it. There's no doubt in my mind that Burrow is the better QB.
Posted on 7/10/19 at 5:23 pm to Goldrush25
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Those aren't my predictions. I'm not sure where you got that from but you didn't get them from me.
So you think those are unrealistic numbers then
I'm not saying that they're unrealistic I'm saying that I didn't predict that and they're not my numbers. I'm not sure where you got them but they didn't come from me.
Posted on 7/10/19 at 5:25 pm to bencoleman
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I'm not saying that they're unrealistic I'm saying that I didn't predict that and they're not my numbers. I'm not sure where you got them but they didn't come from me.
I didn't say you predicted them. I'm asking you, are they realistic numbers or not?
This post was edited on 7/10/19 at 5:26 pm
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