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Video From As Far Back as 1993 That Shows an "Upright WR TD".

Posted on 11/27/22 at 12:37 pm
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
50309 posts
Posted on 11/27/22 at 12:37 pm
All you can do is laugh at how blatantly bad the SEC is at, well, everything.

This is from the Stanford vs Colorado game in 1993. I was a bandwagon CU fan in HS. Almost went to college there. I watched all their games. This is what I immediately thought of last night when the refs screwed LSU. This is how I learned about this rule.

OMG How Dare You Point This Out! You Pu$$y!

Fast forward to the 308-309 minute mark in the game. This is the game winning TD for Stanford. It is third and goal from the 3. Watch the play, listen to the announcers, and watch the replay discuss it.

Now, explain to me how last night was different. Do so without using the words like "misinterpreted", "missed", etc. It went to instant replay. Instant replay is supposed to correct these things. Instant replay has "failed" many times despite it being unbiased.

Enjoy!
Posted by White Tiger
Dallas
Member since Jul 2007
12830 posts
Posted on 11/27/22 at 12:39 pm to
The half wits here cannot comprehend such things. Of course the games are rigged. Too much money at stake.

Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35405 posts
Posted on 11/27/22 at 12:39 pm to
I guess you don't know how rules have changed in nearly 30 years. You are going to be shocked to learn about targeting. Brace yourself.
Posted by GeauxTigers247
Member since Oct 2019
1563 posts
Posted on 11/27/22 at 12:42 pm to
How about you read the rule book instead of posting a 30 year old video.

quote:

If a player goes to the ground in the act of catching a pass (with or without contact by an opponent) he must maintain complete and continuous control of the ball throughout the process of contacting the ground, whether in the field of play or in the end zone.

This is also required for a player attempting to make a catch at the sideline and going to the ground out of bounds.

If he loses control of the ball which then touches the ground before he regains control, it is not a catch.

If he regains control inbounds prior to the ball touching the ground it is a catch.

If the player loses control of the ball while simultaneously touching the ground with any part of his body, or if there is doubt that the acts were simultaneous, it is not a catch.

If a player has control of the ball, a slight movement of the ball, even if it touches the ground, will not be considered loss of possession; he must lose control of the ball in order for there to be a loss of possession.

If the ball touches the ground after the player secures control and continues to maintain control, and the elements above are satisfied, it is a catch.
Posted by EngineerTiger23
Member since Sep 2022
1125 posts
Posted on 11/27/22 at 12:42 pm to
We should’ve never even been in that position. The play you should be upset about happened on 1st down when our QB threw the ball 5 rows deep to a wide open Emery who could’ve walked in for a TD
Posted by TigerDat
Member since Aug 2010
7629 posts
Posted on 11/27/22 at 12:47 pm to
quote:

If a player goes to the ground in the act of catching a pass


This is the part of the rule that is up for interpretation.

The act of catching the ball was complete before he went to the ground.

He secured the catch and touched inbounds, then was hit and took 2 steps out of bounds before the ball was dropped/lost. He was not falling until after the catch was made, which should rule it a catch in the endzone. Just as when a player breaks the plain of the goalie with the ball, it cannot be ruled a fumble if he loses it after that point
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
50309 posts
Posted on 11/27/22 at 12:47 pm to
Lol this isn’t a thread about targeting
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
50309 posts
Posted on 11/27/22 at 12:49 pm to
Lol how about you read the rule before you post it. The LSU WR was not “going to the ground”. The rule you posted doesn’t apply here. Lolololololololol
Posted by GeauxTigers247
Member since Oct 2019
1563 posts
Posted on 11/27/22 at 12:57 pm to
quote:

Lol how about you read the rule before you post it. The LSU WR was not “going to the ground”. The rule you posted doesn’t apply here. Lolololololololol


Did I say it wasn’t a TD? I was trying to give relevant information instead of a 3 hour long 30 year old video that people have to scroll through.
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
29475 posts
Posted on 11/27/22 at 1:22 pm to
quote:

Watch the play, listen to the announcers, and watch the replay discuss it.
That was even more of a bang-bang play than the catch last night and it was called a TD.

There’s no doubt in my mind that was a TD last night. He caught the ball with one foot down inbounds, was hit and took at least two steps OOB as he was falling and then lost the ball before he hit the ground. He had possession of the ball inbounds, therefore, TD.
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
29475 posts
Posted on 11/27/22 at 1:30 pm to
quote:

Just as when a player breaks the plain of the goalie with the ball, it cannot be ruled a fumble if he loses it after that point
Exactly.

The rule is absolute horseshite. You can literally be standing inside the one yard line, reach the ball across the goal line and if someone slaps the ball out of your hand, and it’s still a TD. No need to “retain possession to the ground.” It’s a fricked up rule.

So basically, anytime a receiver catches a pass in the end zone, if you knock the frick out of them and they lose the ball before they hit the ground, it’s not a catch, basically just like in the field of play.
This post was edited on 11/27/22 at 1:32 pm
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
50309 posts
Posted on 11/27/22 at 1:46 pm to
My bad. I stated in the OP where to go in the video
Posted by armytiger96
Member since Sep 2007
1205 posts
Posted on 11/27/22 at 1:46 pm to
quote:

If a player goes to the ground in the act of catching a pass (with or without contact by an opponent) he must maintain complete and continuous control of the ball throughout the process of contacting the ground, whether in the field of play or in the end zone. This is also required for a player attempting to make a catch at the sideline and going to the ground out of bounds. If he loses control of the ball which then touches the ground before he regains control, it is not a catch. If he regains control inbounds prior to the ball touching the ground it is a catch. If the player loses control of the ball while simultaneously touching the ground with any part of his body, or if there is doubt that the acts were simultaneous, it is not a catch. If a player has control of the ball, a slight movement of the ball, even if it touches the ground, will not be considered loss of possession; he must lose control of the ball in order for there to be a loss of possession. If the ball touches the ground after the player secures control and continues to maintain control, and the elements above are satisfied, it is a catch.



This is my biggest problem with instant replay. It has changed from a means to checking whether or not a call was correct to changing the rules of the game and how the refs are supposed call the game. Then to overturn the call it has to be conclusive without using logic and where more often than not there isn’t a camera angle to give a conclusive view of the play which is why most of the time the call stands instead of overturned.
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
50309 posts
Posted on 11/27/22 at 3:18 pm to
What the SEC is doing now is “interpreting” rules when convenient. Basically changing rules in the middle of games…..and fans seem to be OK with it lol
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