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re: Update: Collins to speak with BR police after draft
Posted on 4/29/15 at 8:57 am to lsupride87
Posted on 4/29/15 at 8:57 am to lsupride87
Are y'all done arguing about the semantics? It isn't going to change anybody's opinion one way or the other.
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Posted on 4/29/15 at 9:01 am to lsupride87
Look bbap I don't want to go at you personally. But it it simple, by the definition of the word, and from the Cops on mouth, Collins is not a suspect. So to call him one is not only wrong factually, it is irresponsible. I realize people will do it because they are lazy and love to assume the worse. But the one place where false info should not be spread about Collins is from his own fanbase. So to see it happening, especially from a respected poster, is bush league and a punk embarassing move
Posted on 4/29/15 at 9:02 am to tigerskin
There is no semantics. A suspect is a person thought to be guilty of a crime. Collins isn't one
Posted on 4/29/15 at 9:04 am to dagrippa
I'm fairly sure that is the opposite of how our justice system works. If they have no current leads and no current idea who was involved than they have no suspects. You don't just say well we don't currently know where to look so everybody close to this person is a suspect. That statement is so wrong It's almost like you were trying to be funny.
This post was edited on 4/29/15 at 9:06 am
Posted on 4/29/15 at 9:05 am to tigerskin
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Are y'all done arguing about the semantics? It isn't going to change anybody's opinion one way or the other.
Agreed. Whether the word is used or not makes very little difference. I don't think he did anything either but you better damn well bet the cops are gonna be looking at him pretty hard if he is close to the victims.
I feel for the kid in many ways because of this f-d up situation.
Posted on 4/29/15 at 9:08 am to bbap
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You are an idiot. Police let suspects wait a week to talk to all the time right bbap? "Oh officer, mind if I take a week to get my stuff together and leave this country?" If he was a suspect there is no interviewing him at his convenience
incorrect. One, you never have to speak with the police, even if arrested and charged. Second, if they don't have probable cause to make an arrest, you aren't required to do anything. You can literally say exactly what you put in quotations and cops are powerless.
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So you really think cops would let an actual suspect wait a week or two at their convenience to interview? And we are the naive ones. If cops followed the bbap theory 99% of suspects would flee the country
again, Cops have no power to take away someone's freedom without arresting them, which would require a warrant
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Yall have no idea what the hell you are talking about It is simple, he isn't a suspect. The cops said it themselves. Suspects don't get to stay in Chicago and tell the cops I'll get back to you in a week
again, you continue to repeat incorrect legal procedural policies and rights of suspects. it may be time to step back.
Posted on 4/29/15 at 9:08 am to OGtigerfan73
What is with you guys on this?
Technically there are no suspects according to the media. Therefore Collins is certainly not a suspect.
its like a bunch of insurance attorneys arguing over a policy kicking in because of a classification change
Technically there are no suspects according to the media. Therefore Collins is certainly not a suspect.
its like a bunch of insurance attorneys arguing over a policy kicking in because of a classification change
This post was edited on 4/29/15 at 9:12 am
Posted on 4/29/15 at 9:11 am to lsufball19
quote:oK. After all that, he still isnt a suspect
You are an idiot. Police let suspects wait a week to talk to all the time right bbap? "Oh officer, mind if I take a week to get my stuff together and leave this country?" If he was a suspect there is no interviewing him at his convenience
incorrect. One, you never have to speak with the police, even if arrested and charged. Second, if they don't have probable cause to make an arrest, you aren't required to do anything. You can literally say exactly what you put in quotations and cops are powerless.
quote:
So you really think cops would let an actual suspect wait a week or two at their convenience to interview? And we are the naive ones. If cops followed the bbap theory 99% of suspects would flee the country
again, Cops have no power to take away someone's freedom without arresting them, which would require a warrant
quote:
Yall have no idea what the hell you are talking about It is simple, he isn't a suspect. The cops said it themselves. Suspects don't get to stay in Chicago and tell the cops I'll get back to you in a week
again, you continue to repeat incorrect legal procedural policies and rights of suspects. it may be time to step back.
Posted on 4/29/15 at 9:11 am to lsupride87
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Yall need to read the definition of the word suspect and then you will realize why the cops are not calling him one
legal definitions differ from the meriam webster dictionary definition, just fyi
Posted on 4/29/15 at 9:14 am to lsupride87
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oK. After all that, he still isnt a suspect
honestly, i don't think you know what a suspect is, in the legal sense. you're too hung up on what the dictionary says and what a meaningless press conference said. i think you are equating suspect with what the requirements are for an arrest warrant. they're just not the same.
ETA: your "definition" is: someone believed to be guilty. So, unless there is a case of multiple people involved in the crime, are you trying to say there can never be multiple suspects? I mean, logically, two people can't be believed to be guilty of an act that involved one person. Sounds pretty ridiculous doesn't it?
This post was edited on 4/29/15 at 9:20 am
Posted on 4/29/15 at 9:17 am to lsufball19
quote:Never said they are. He still isnt a suspect
honestly, i don't think you know what a suspect is, in the legal sense. you're too hung up on what the dictionary says and what a meaningless press conference said. i think you are equating suspect with what the requirements are for an arrest warrant. they're just not the same.
Posted on 4/29/15 at 9:19 am to lsupride87
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In criminal law, a suspect is someone who is under suspicion, formally announced as being under investigation by law enforcement officials.
quote:Sure doesnt look like he is a suspect
In the law enforcement jargon, a suspect is a person accused or suspected of committing a crime.
Posted on 4/29/15 at 9:23 am to lsupride87
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Sure doesnt look like he is a suspect
lol nice edit of uslegal.com. you left out a pretty relevant word bud.
I'll help you out
"a suspect is someone who is under suspicion, often formally announced as being under investigation by law enforcement officials."
you conveniently left out the word "often." wonder why... Oh, it's because cops don't have to formally announce anything regarding suspects
This post was edited on 4/29/15 at 9:24 am
Posted on 4/29/15 at 9:25 am to lsufball19
quote:I didnt. But what does that change? They came out specifically and said he isnt a suspect. Look, I know talking shite about lsu players give some of you hard ons, but im not sure why the admins allow it
lol nice edit of uslegal.com. you left out a pretty relevant word bud.
I'll help you out
"a suspect is someone who is under suspicion, often formally announced as being under investigation by law enforcement officials."
you conveniently left out the word "often." wonder why...
Posted on 4/29/15 at 9:27 am to lsupride87
Watching sportscenter just now, before commercial they said something about character and slipping down draft boards, and showed a clip of Collins mauling some a&m scrub. fricking espn needs to gtfo
This post was edited on 4/29/15 at 9:28 am
Posted on 4/29/15 at 9:29 am to lsupride87
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I didnt. But what does that change? They came out specifically and said he isnt a suspect. Look, I know talking shite about lsu players give some of you hard ons, but im not sure why the admins allow it
it actually doesn't, and if it makes you feel any better, i don't think collins had anything to do with the murder. but trying to act like he isn't a person of interest in her murder is just flat out naive. with the little evidence they have, they can't announce anyone as an actual suspect right now. because if they're wrong, they open themselves up to an enormous lawsuit.
i think it really sucks for collins and is a horrible tragedy for the girl and her family. collins, guilty or not, may be undraftable, which is why he may want to speak to the police before the draft. could end up costing him millions with so much uncertainty. for the girl, it's just heart breaking to think some denigrate murdered someone like that, especially someone carrying a child
This post was edited on 4/29/15 at 9:32 am
Posted on 4/29/15 at 9:31 am to lsufball19
quote:WOH WOH WOH. I am arguing calling him a suspect man. POI still isnt right, but I wouldnt be as upset with people using that term
but trying to act like he isn't a person of interest in her murder is just flat out naive
Posted on 4/29/15 at 9:32 am to lsufball19
quote:
but trying to act like he isn't a person of interest
"person of interest" is different than suspect. Collins is not a suspect
Posted on 4/29/15 at 9:33 am to lsupride87
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I am arguing calling him a suspect man. POI still isnt right, but I wouldnt be as upset with people using that term
so you're caught up in semantics that are pretty irrelevant
Posted on 4/29/15 at 9:35 am to lsufball19
quote:irrelevant? Calling someone a suspect in a crime isnt semantics man
so you're caught up in semantics that are pretty irrelevant
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