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re: Unless J.J. gets hurt he will be the starting Q.B.

Posted on 3/25/09 at 7:54 am to
Posted by Tiger_n_ATL
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2005
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Posted on 3/25/09 at 7:54 am to
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That is precisely the position I have been arguing the entire thread. The position that opposes mine in this thread is that there is NO chance that Lee could be the starter come September.
Then you are arguing with yourself by quoting and challenging me. Because I never said NO CHANCE.
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So, what is the scoring system there? Like, a TD for every game you started the season before? And does the referee award these at the beginning of the game? Or at the end? Or are they just randomly scattered throughout the game, where he occasionally just throws his hands up and declares, "EXPERIENCE TOUCHDOWN! 6 POINTS FOR LSU!"?
Good grief, Joey. You have to be the most patronizing person on the board. Do you really think people are that dumb? Not literal points, experience points. Now you are just being silly.
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 3/25/09 at 7:59 am to
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So, what is the scoring system there? Like, a TD for every game you started the season before? And does the referee award these at the beginning of the game? Or at the end? Or are they just randomly scattered throughout the game, where he occasionally just throws his hands up and declares, "EXPERIENCE TOUCHDOWN! 6 POINTS FOR LSU!"?


this is borderline retarded.
This post was edited on 3/25/09 at 8:00 am
Posted by rtgr
New Orleans/Jackson Wyoming
Member since Nov 2005
2528 posts
Posted on 3/25/09 at 8:47 am to
[quote]Les has pretty much said it already but I'M the idiot.

If you could provide a cite for this it would go a long way toward you proving that you are not a complete idiot, sonnyboy

I ask you too then moron. Based on what YOU know about both QBs who do YOU run onto the field in September???[/quot

First of all, sonnyboy, it's not my decision to make. OR anyone else's except CLM.
If I had to make a call I would see who was moving the team better in spring and summer and go from there. Only idiots would judge 2 complete rookies on what they did their first season. If that was the case Jamarcus Russell would never have taken another snap after his freshman year. Nor would Matt Stafford, nor Josh Booty, nor Jay Cutler.
But, sonnyboy, the fact is that the only person who decides is CLM. And nothing anyone says here is going to change that.
Posted by TheDoc
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Member since Dec 2005
99297 posts
Posted on 3/25/09 at 9:03 am to
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the fact is that the only person who decides is CLM. And nothing anyone says here is going to change that.


yeah, I mean what's the point of even discussing it...

Posted by MightyYat
StB Garden District
Member since Jan 2009
25029 posts
Posted on 3/25/09 at 9:06 am to
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[quote]Les has pretty much said it already but I'M the idiot.

If you could provide a cite for this it would go a long way toward you proving that you are not a complete idiot, sonnyboy

I ask you too then moron. Based on what YOU know about both QBs who do YOU run onto the field in September???[/quot

First of all, sonnyboy, it's not my decision to make. OR anyone else's except CLM.
If I had to make a call I would see who was moving the team better in spring and summer and go from there. Only idiots would judge 2 complete rookies on what they did their first season. If that was the case Jamarcus Russell would never have taken another snap after his freshman year. Nor would Matt Stafford, nor Josh Booty, nor Jay Cutler.
But, sonnyboy, the fact is that the only person who decides is CLM. And nothing anyone says here is going to change that.



First off, you really suck at this inter-web thing homey.

As for citing Les, he said it in one of his interviews after the first few days of Spring practice.

Now, on to your idiotic ramblings about the highlighted QBs. First, Jamarcus was a top overall pick in the NFL type talent. You don't sit him for ANYONE. Second, UGA didn't have anyone to turn to BUT Stafford and the same goes for Jay Cutler. As for Josh Booty, he had that all-SEC year but I will always wonder "what if" in regards to just handing over the duties to Rohan earlier. I know Saban thought Rohan's work ethic in practice was terrible but the light came on when that cat ran out on the field for game time.


This post was edited on 3/25/09 at 12:14 pm
Posted by TheDoc
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Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 3/25/09 at 9:19 am to
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game time.


some people do well in practice, but can't get the butterflies out when they are in a game time situation.

Posted by King Joey
Just south of the DC/US border
Member since Mar 2004
12719 posts
Posted on 3/25/09 at 2:16 pm to
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Then you are arguing with yourself by quoting and challenging me. Because I never said NO CHANCE.
Then why are you arguing in support of the people who DID say no chance?
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Do you really think people are that dumb? Not literal points, experience points.
Look, I'm dealing with people who ARE saying there is no chance Lee can win the starting job without an injury. How smart should I think they are? If I mistakenly lumped you in that category, then I'm sorry. But when you jumped in to support the people arguing against my position that there is SOME chance, it sure seemed like you were taking the "no chance" position. If you weren't, then it's kind of a headscratcher why you chose to argue with my posts instead of the ones claiming there is no chance.

My point about the experience "points" is that they are subjective, and do not necessarily work the same for everyone. Thus, as you apparently understand but some others here apparently do not, there is some chance that Lee's "experience points" could lead to even more progression than Jefferson's and even lead to Lee becoming a better QB by the time the season opens and thus win the starting job. It's unlikely, but it is possible. Some people here are refusing to grasp that possibility for whatever reason. That's who are disagreeing with me.

Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 3/25/09 at 2:26 pm to
Stepping onto the field and hearing boooooo would light a fire under any Tigers arse.

If J. Lee gets onto the field this time around he will impress.

Posted by TheDoc
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Member since Dec 2005
99297 posts
Posted on 3/25/09 at 2:43 pm to
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It's unlikely, but it is possible.


I could win the lottery today.

It's unlikely, but it is possible.
Posted by MightyYat
StB Garden District
Member since Jan 2009
25029 posts
Posted on 3/25/09 at 2:46 pm to
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My point about the experience "points" is that they are subjective, and do not necessarily work the same for everyone. Thus, as you apparently understand but some others here apparently do not, there is some chance that Lee's "experience points" could lead to even more progression than Jefferson's and even lead to Lee becoming a better QB by the time the season opens and thus win the starting job. It's unlikely, but it is possible. Some people here are refusing to grasp that possibility for whatever reason. That's who are disagreeing with me.


Better chance of JJ getting arrested.









I can't help myself. I want to see this thread go on forever.
Posted by TheDoc
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Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 3/25/09 at 2:50 pm to
the ones who keep talking about jefferson getting arrested are ignorant pieces of shite IMO.

Why don't they ever talk about jarret lee being hurt for a fall camp/practice?

because when his team needed him to step up last year for practicing, his back was hurting him.

thus, hatch became the "starter" because miles couldn't depend on lee to participate in the practices.
Posted by MightyYat
StB Garden District
Member since Jan 2009
25029 posts
Posted on 3/25/09 at 2:53 pm to
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the ones who keep talking about jefferson getting arrested are ignorant pieces of shite IMO.

Why don't they ever talk about jarret lee being hurt for a fall camp/practice?

because when his team needed him to step up last year for practicing, his back was hurting him.

thus, hatch became the "starter" because miles couldn't depend on lee to participate in the practices.


Doc, I don't know that anyone ACTUALLY suggested that he would. All I did was offer that as another POSSIBILITY that JL would start in September just to appease Joe Joe.
Posted by Tiger_n_ATL
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2005
33157 posts
Posted on 3/25/09 at 2:55 pm to
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Look, I'm dealing with people who ARE saying there is no chance Lee can win the starting job without an injury. How smart should I think they are? If I mistakenly lumped you in that category, then I'm sorry. But when you jumped in to support the people arguing against my position that there is SOME chance, it sure seemed like you were taking the "no chance" position. If you weren't, then it's kind of a headscratcher why you chose to argue with my posts instead of the ones claiming there is no chance.

My point about the experience "points" is that they are subjective, and do not necessarily work the same for everyone. Thus, as you apparently understand but some others here apparently do not, there is some chance that Lee's "experience points" could lead to even more progression than Jefferson's and even lead to Lee becoming a better QB by the time the season opens and thus win the starting job. It's unlikely, but it is possible. Some people here are refusing to grasp that possibility for whatever reason. That's who are disagreeing with me.
We are agreeing on the substance, but not the degree. My argument is with people that think Lee has as good or better chance at starting than does Jefferson. He simply does not. Jefferson is ahead by virtue of the last few games and Lee's performance under fire (which was abysmal). Lee's immobility and his tendency to give the ball to the other team puts him at a serious competitive disadvantage. I would give Lee about a 10% chance of starting over Jefferson. But I'm not the coach.

So we can argue about the degree (you think there's more of a chance for Lee than I do), but the substance we agree on- both have a chance of course.

By the way, thanks for having a heated argument without throwing knives.
Posted by Jaydeaux
Covington
Member since May 2005
19516 posts
Posted on 3/25/09 at 2:56 pm to
Why even mention JJ getting into trouble?? I think he knows what it means to be the LSU starting QB and likes it. He's no RP....

So let's just say I walk into Husky stadium and they trot out JL..... what then bitches???


I'd be as shocked as the next guy but he'd be my guy that day.

JJ puts his stamp on the great NW book it
Posted by MightyYat
StB Garden District
Member since Jan 2009
25029 posts
Posted on 3/25/09 at 4:06 pm to
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I'd be as shocked as the next guy but he'd be my guy that day.



It's not "would you support JL if he was named the starter." Although I'm pretty sure most of the fan base would have this look on their faces:


Posted by TheDoc
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Member since Dec 2005
99297 posts
Posted on 3/25/09 at 4:59 pm to
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Why even mention JJ getting into trouble??


because believe it or not, someone people think that because Jefferson is the same race as RP, he is a thug like RP was.

shocking I know.
Posted by rtgr
New Orleans/Jackson Wyoming
Member since Nov 2005
2528 posts
Posted on 3/25/09 at 7:42 pm to
quote:

It's not "would you support JL if he was named the starter." Although I'm pretty sure most of the fan base would have this look on their faces:


Only idiots, assholes, and fools would have that look on their faces. CLM will make the call that gives LSU the best chance to win. Everyone who is NOT a fool, an idiot or an a-hole knows this. I will fully support whoever CLM sends out on the field on the 5th v Washington.
Posted by Peachtree Tiger
Member since Jan 2004
3232 posts
Posted on 3/25/09 at 9:31 pm to
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Unless J.J. gets hurt he will be the starting Q.B.


Let's rephrase this. If you asked everyone on this board if they had to bet their life savings on who the starting QB would be (baring injury) for the first game, and probably even for the season, I am sure you would get a near 100% bet on JJ. I don't think there is much question about that.
Posted by Hot Carl
Prayers up for 3
Member since Dec 2005
62011 posts
Posted on 3/25/09 at 9:54 pm to
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because believe it or not, someone people think that because Jefferson is the same race as RP, he is a thug like RP was.




Who are these people you speak of? You continue to be the ONLY one who brings this up. Can't you see how you've turned into "the boy who cried 'racist'?"
Posted by Geauxlden Boy
Earth
Member since Dec 2008
142 posts
Posted on 3/25/09 at 9:59 pm to
JJ is leading this offense. He seized their respect in the bowl game and he hasn't given it back.

God I can't wait for football season to start.
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