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re: TT fans class and classless at the same time
Posted on 12/31/15 at 9:14 am to dallastiger55
Posted on 12/31/15 at 9:14 am to dallastiger55
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...I live in big 12 country...
Might wanna' check a map there, partner. JENNINGS, LOUISIANA is still EAST of the Sabine.
That'd put you in sec! country.
Glad I could help.
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Posted on 12/31/15 at 9:15 am to RedRaider
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How is lining up 5 wide outs running different patterns...."inferior"?
How many scholly offers did those 5 wide outs receive from top tier P5 schools? Thanks for playing our game
Posted on 12/31/15 at 9:19 am to RedRaider
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Yet, the top 3 college offenses in the country run it, along with most of the top 20 collegiate offenses in the nation.
How are you judging top offenses?
A fast past with more plays will obviously lead to more points and yards. That doesn't make it more effective and puts the defenses of those teams at a disadvantage.
Even still, the high powered tech averages 6.6 yards per play while the lowly LSU offense, which we can all agree needs improvement, averaged 6.4 yards per play
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Should the smaller/slower/less athletic player be allowed to "hold" his opponent?
Which is what tech was allowed to do the entire game...
This post was edited on 12/31/15 at 9:29 am
Posted on 12/31/15 at 9:20 am to RedRaider
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Yet, the top 3 college offenses in the country run it, along with most of the top 20 collegiate offenses in the nation.
and their defenses are awfull. The reason they run the gimmick is because it gives them a chance to win with inferior talent. Sorry, but playing 65-55 Tecmo football is ridiculous.
Posted on 12/31/15 at 9:28 am to TGK4LSU
Michael Crabtree, Wes Welker, Danny Amendola all say HI!
None were highly recruited...all seem to be doing just fine as professional athletes. Your point?
Patrick Mahommes wasn't highly recruited either, because many thought he would go the baseball route. And, he was solid for TECH from the get-go. So, few offers. Coach Kingsbury said he could come to TECH, play QB and pitch for Coach Tadlock. I'd take him straight up over any other sophomore QB in the country right now.
Tell ya' what...
Jett Duffey....2016 commit for the Red Raiders. No other offers....cause he made it clear from the beginning he was gonna' play for TECH and Coach Kingsbury. Lets see his QB numbers vs whoever is QB for LSU in.....say, three years?
None were highly recruited...all seem to be doing just fine as professional athletes. Your point?
Patrick Mahommes wasn't highly recruited either, because many thought he would go the baseball route. And, he was solid for TECH from the get-go. So, few offers. Coach Kingsbury said he could come to TECH, play QB and pitch for Coach Tadlock. I'd take him straight up over any other sophomore QB in the country right now.
Tell ya' what...
Jett Duffey....2016 commit for the Red Raiders. No other offers....cause he made it clear from the beginning he was gonna' play for TECH and Coach Kingsbury. Lets see his QB numbers vs whoever is QB for LSU in.....say, three years?
Posted on 12/31/15 at 9:31 am to RedRaider
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Michael Crabtree, Wes Welker, Danny Amendola all say HI
Do you really want to get into an NFL pissing match?
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None were highly recruited...all seem to be doing just fine as professional athletes. Your point?
Well gee, three NFL players, one from over 10 years ago. You proved his point wrong /s
This post was edited on 12/31/15 at 9:34 am
Posted on 12/31/15 at 9:41 am to TGK4LSU
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...and their defenses are awfull....
OU runs this offense, led by another former RED RAIDER. (Lincoln Riley)
The Sooner D? Gave up about 3 yds. a game more than the Tiger D....playin' against much more productive offensive teams.
Did you know they'll be playin' for the National Championship....if they win one more game?
This post was edited on 12/31/15 at 9:43 am
Posted on 12/31/15 at 9:43 am to lsuhunt555
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That and a guy faking an injury to get a new pair of pants.
Not faking, his pride was injured.
Posted on 12/31/15 at 9:54 am to TigerBait1127
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How are you judging top offenses?
FBS Football Statistics provided at NCAA.com. I googled it.
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A fast past with more plays will obviously lead to more points and yards.
Pretty much the point on the offensive side of the ball.....isn't it?
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tech averages 6.6 yards per play.....LSU....averaged 6.4 yards per play
Sooo.....IF LSU had run more plays.....wouldn't they have had similar net offensive production numbers as TECH?
Posted on 12/31/15 at 9:55 am to RedRaider
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OU runs this offense
Not really. Its more of a pro style/spread offense hybrid than a hurry up/tempo. The only top tier program than runs this is Oregon.
Posted on 12/31/15 at 9:59 am to TGK4LSU
Riley will run hurry up when the situation dictates it. I won't split hairs with you over the description/style/definition...
Having Perine gives him more options, no doubt.
Having Perine gives him more options, no doubt.
Posted on 12/31/15 at 10:00 am to StrangeBrew
We went to the game and you are correct. Most of the TT fans were ok. When we returned to our hotel we rode on the elevator with TT fans and they were very complementary of LSU ! They knew they got their butts whipped! 
Posted on 12/31/15 at 10:02 am to RedRaider
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Michael Crabtree, Wes Welker, Danny Amendola all say HI!
None were highly recruited...all seem to be doing just fine as professional athletes. Your point?
Patrick Mahommes wasn't highly recruited either, because many thought he would go the baseball route. And, he was solid for TECH from the get-go. So, few offers. Coach Kingsbury said he could come to TECH, play QB and pitch for Coach Tadlock. I'd take him straight up over any other sophomore QB in the country right now.
Tell ya' what...
Jett Duffey....2016 commit for the Red Raiders. No other offers....cause he made it clear from the beginning he was gonna' play for TECH and Coach Kingsbury. Lets see his QB numbers vs whoever is QB for LSU in.....say, three years?
Wow...shut my mouth. lol
If all you do is pass the ball, I guess you can develop a couple decent NFL receivers while your QB puts up ridiculous numbers. How many total players does TT have in the NFL? 6 or 7? That's what I thought, inferior talent. Like several schools that can only attract 2 & 3 star recruits, they have to use a gimmick to compete.
Posted on 12/31/15 at 10:06 am to TGK4LSU
Posted on 12/31/15 at 10:08 am to RedRaider
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The #7 running back for y'all seemed to be faster at times than our guys. I remember one particular play where he outran our DB. Should some special compensation been allowed our defense to keep him from running so fast?
This might be the dumbest point I've ever read on the subject.
Your argument is extremely poor. You try to equate athleticism (speed, strength, etc.) to fatigue and yet at the same time dismiss that fatigue is similar to injury.
The reality is that you can't tell the difference between the guy who twisted his ankle or has a cramp with the guy who is just tired. And, I vehemently oppose forcing players who aren't 100% to have to play so that the more healthy guy on the other side has an advantage.
Posted on 12/31/15 at 10:09 am to TGK4LSU
I stated my position RE: pro ball earlier. Not my thing....if you like it? Cool.
This is a college football forum, correct? I have kept my comments regarding the game within the context of the forum....save for transgressions to answer another poster.
This is a college football forum, correct? I have kept my comments regarding the game within the context of the forum....save for transgressions to answer another poster.
Posted on 12/31/15 at 10:24 am to moneyg
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...You try to equate athleticism (speed, strength, etc.) to fatigue...
The correlation IS direct. You ever run a marathon? Triathlon? (I have, and still do) One's speed and strength (athleticism) diminishes, as fatigue sets in. The clock.....keeps ticking at the same rate.
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The reality is that you can't tell the difference between the guy who twisted his ankle or has a cramp with the guy who is just tired.
You're making my point, my friend. And the guy who lays down on the field to gain an unfair advantage (because he is tired) is cheating the rules of the game. Any way you slice it.
Guess it's the difference between seeing the game as a 60 minute contest....vs. a series of individual plays.
This post was edited on 12/31/15 at 10:26 am
Posted on 12/31/15 at 10:33 am to RedRaider
First of all, you can never be sure if someone is really injured or has cramps. Second, till you get a semblance of a defense, your offensive prowess will never matter. We lived in your backfield all night.
Posted on 12/31/15 at 10:48 am to tiger81
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First of all, you can never be sure if someone is really injured or has cramps.
Very true. Subsequently, you never can know if the same someone has fully recovered....after sitting out a play or two on the sidelines. I mean, a highly competitive individual playing big time D1 college football might just say he's OK....when he really just wants to get back into the game, right? The same game where play had to be stopped to tend to his injury/cramp? Out of an abundance of caution....I say it'd be better to hold him out for a series. Maybe the remainder of the quarter or half? You know....'cause you can never be sure, right?
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....till you get a semblance of a defense....
Believe they got Coach Gibbs workin' on this.....right now. But, this was his first full season as a RED RAIDER. I'm OK with givin' him a little time. Recruit his own kids, implement his own style.
Posted on 12/31/15 at 10:58 am to RedRaider
Your team got skull fricked bro deal with it. Y'all were allowed to hold the entire game and were flagged like once. LSU had something like 20 QB hurries by the 3rd quarter. Without even watching the game someone would know you have to hold if you're getting dominated that bad in the trenches.
OOC spread teams seem to get dominated by LSU because you guys never put the gameplan around the games LSU struggles. You want to beat an SEC team like LSU...you better have power spread implemented. See Urban Meyer. Clearly your coach never watched the Bama, Arkansas or hell Ole Miss. You can't just keep passing it and expect to beat LSU who can stick to your WRs like glue. Man on man no spread team is going to dominate LSU with superior athletes or keep a high tempo doing it. That's why you spread teams fail against the better defenses with good athletes.
The only spread coach that seems to understand this is Urban Meyer which is why he dominated SEC and seems to still be doing fine doing it at Ohio State. CUM understood that if you're going to finesse it you have to mix it up with cramming it down their teeth to throw them off balance. Sumlin still hasn't figured it out which is why TAMU is great until they get into the meat of their schedule against good SEC defenses and get destroyed.
All that being said, even with the above scheme mentioned you'd still lose. Your offensive line was turrible. But yeah, the gameplan TT came into the game with was stupid.
OOC spread teams seem to get dominated by LSU because you guys never put the gameplan around the games LSU struggles. You want to beat an SEC team like LSU...you better have power spread implemented. See Urban Meyer. Clearly your coach never watched the Bama, Arkansas or hell Ole Miss. You can't just keep passing it and expect to beat LSU who can stick to your WRs like glue. Man on man no spread team is going to dominate LSU with superior athletes or keep a high tempo doing it. That's why you spread teams fail against the better defenses with good athletes.
The only spread coach that seems to understand this is Urban Meyer which is why he dominated SEC and seems to still be doing fine doing it at Ohio State. CUM understood that if you're going to finesse it you have to mix it up with cramming it down their teeth to throw them off balance. Sumlin still hasn't figured it out which is why TAMU is great until they get into the meat of their schedule against good SEC defenses and get destroyed.
All that being said, even with the above scheme mentioned you'd still lose. Your offensive line was turrible. But yeah, the gameplan TT came into the game with was stupid.
This post was edited on 12/31/15 at 11:06 am
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