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re: The remaining games that affect LSU getting the 4th Seed in the SEC Tourney
Posted on 2/16/12 at 1:35 pm to Nuts4LSU
Posted on 2/16/12 at 1:35 pm to Nuts4LSU
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NCAA selection committee doesn't care about conference standing. It's not unusual for a team in a conference to receive an at-large invitation while another team that finished ahead of that team in the same conference doesn't get one. The committee regards all games the same (with some exceptions relating to when the game was played, where, etc.), regardless of whether they are conference games or not.
Thank you. RPI and SOS (especially non-conference SOS) are the two main things they look at. Road record, quality wins, bad losses, conference record, etc are all other factors taken into consideration (seemingly in about that order) with less emphasis. They compare all teams nationally with all other teams, so it would be absurd to look at conference standings anyway. It's why LSU has the same record in conference as Alabama, Arkansas, and Ole Miss right now but Alabama is in the tournament as of now and Arky and Ole Miss are mentioned on the bubble. LSU is nowhere in sight.
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Posted on 2/16/12 at 1:37 pm to bigpapamac
I think we need a quality road win to turn some heads.
Posted on 2/16/12 at 1:38 pm to LSU Patrick
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I think we need a quality road win to turn some heads.
Ole Miss will have to do the trick cause that's as good as it gets.
Posted on 2/16/12 at 1:41 pm to SouthOfSouth
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think we need a quality road win to turn some heads.
Ole Miss will have to do the trick cause that's as good as it gets.
Exactly another reason LSU's chances are slim at best. No good road wins, and no chance for one. Rest of the opponents (home and away) are generally bad RPI teams that don't provide any chance to really boost LSU's bad RPI rating.
Posted on 2/16/12 at 1:42 pm to SouthOfSouth
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Ole Miss will have to do the trick cause that's as good as it gets.
I know, which is why I am not expecting too much.
Posted on 2/16/12 at 1:55 pm to McManus
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LSU 5-6 (Potential 10-6)
at South Carolina (Win)
Georgia (Win)
at Ole Miss (Win)
Tennessee (Win)
at Auburn (Win)
LSU road SEC record: 0-5 (losses to Alabama, Arkansas, Florida, Miss. St., Vandy)
S. Carolina home SEC record: 2-3 (wins over Alabama, Georgia; losses to Vandy, Florida, Kentucky)
Ole Miss home SEC record: 4-1 (wins over Arkansas, Miss. St., S. Carolina, Auburn; loss to Florida)
Auburn home SEC record: 3-2 (wins over Ole Miss, S. Carolina, Georgia; losses to Kentucky, Alabama)
Is anyone seriously picking us to win all three of these games? These three teams are a combined 9-6 at home, with 5 of the 6 losses coming to Florida (2), Kentucky (2) and Vanderbilt (1). All three have won at home over at least one team that is currently ahead of LSU in the standings. We have not beaten anyone in the SEC, even at home, that hasn't also lost on the road at one or more of these three teams. With the exception of Alabama's win at Auburn, no team we have beaten at home has managed to win on the road against any of these three teams. Do you see anything in any of these numbers to suggest we should win ANY of the three road games, let alone all?
This post was edited on 2/16/12 at 2:01 pm
Posted on 2/16/12 at 2:04 pm to Nuts4LSU
LSU isn't losing to South Carolina or Georgia. They'll be sitting at 7-6 and we'll worry about the last three games when they get here.
Posted on 2/16/12 at 2:06 pm to bigpapamac
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It would be much more beneficial if LSU could somehow win out and get the 5 or 6 seed.
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This guy gets it.
Unless this thread is figuring out the best way for LSU to actually win the whole thing, the best thing LSU could do is win as many games in the tournament as possible to have any NCAA hopes. It wouldn't do much for the RPI, but LSU would need every win possible to have any kind of shot and the best way to do that would be to play some bad team on the first day.
If LSU gets the 5 or 6 seed that means LSU won't be 10-6. LSU also isn't getting into the NCAA tournament if they aren't 10-6.
Posted on 2/16/12 at 2:07 pm to Nuts4LSU
quote:We're better than auburn and south Carolina
Do you see anything in any of these numbers to suggest we should win ANY of the three road games, let alone all?
Posted on 2/16/12 at 2:13 pm to OneMoreTime
I can't wait until Trent takes a dump on all the haters the next 5 games.
Posted on 2/16/12 at 2:20 pm to The Boat
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I can't wait until Trent takes a dump on all the haters the next 5 games.
They'll still find a reason to hate on him.
Posted on 2/16/12 at 2:36 pm to OneMoreTime
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We're better than auburn and south Carolina
The five teams we've beaten at home are a combined 1-5 on the road against USC, Ole Miss and Auburn. These three teams, like LSU, have totally sucked balls on the road, but at home, with the sole exception of Auburn losing to Alabama, they have also been like LSU, losing to the good teams and beating the mediocre and bad ones. If you want to say that Mississippi State is a good team, fine. MSU also lost its only road game against any of these three, at Ole Miss.
We will likely be 7-8 going into the finale at Auburn, with the outcome of that game being the difference between 8-8 and 7-9. Going 3-2 in these last 5 games will be a major challenge. Anything better than that is a long shot.
Posted on 2/16/12 at 2:37 pm to Tigerfan7218
She's tweeting about the selection committee
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Things that don't factor into NCAA tourney selection: conference RPI, last 10/12 games, timing of wins, or what teams did last year.
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Team sheets are broken down more than you think. Games vs. RPI 1-25 separated from 25-50 within Top 50 record
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USA TODAY/ESPN coaches poll and AP poll are available resources for committee members, as are kenpom, sagarin, etc
Posted on 2/16/12 at 2:39 pm to OneMoreTime
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Things that don't factor into NCAA tourney selection: conference RPI, last 10/12 games, timing of wins, or what teams did last year.
bullllllllllllllllshit
Posted on 2/16/12 at 2:43 pm to The Boat
I'm with you on that. Maybe last year doesn't matter as much, but conference strength and how you finish the season has a pretty big impact IMO.
This post was edited on 2/16/12 at 2:44 pm
Posted on 2/16/12 at 3:07 pm to bigpapamac
Alabama went 12-4 and didn't make it last season. 
Posted on 2/16/12 at 5:08 pm to OneMoreTime
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OneMoreTime
One of the links in her stream lists LSU as OUT...
...but on the bubble with other SEC teams slipping.
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OUT
The Tigers are back on the bubble after wins over Alabama and Mississippi State. RPI is a little high and record vs. teams with RPI in the Top 100 isn't great, but keep an eye on LSU as other SEC teams are slipping a bit.
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