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re: The more I watch Paul Maineiri

Posted on 6/7/10 at 2:33 am to
Posted by macatak911
Mandeville, LA
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Posted on 6/7/10 at 2:33 am to
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remember his last bunt attempt? the ol' 1-6-3 double play


Touché
Posted by Jay Quest
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Posted on 6/7/10 at 2:35 am to
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They're also not looking ahead at the situation. Say LSU ties it up that inning and then completes the 9th tied, they go into extra innings. LSU still has to play UCLA twice to win the regional. We could be burning more of our bullpen that will already be thin for UCLA.

No coach should be thinking past the elimination game he's currently playing. You're bringing far too much into this.
Posted by Sports2
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Posted on 6/7/10 at 2:35 am to
Mainieri has said time and again that in the postseason he's more willing to take chances and try to be aggressive. I think one of the other posters said it best, go with the girl that you brought to the dance, don't try to reinvent your team just because protocol calls for it.

LSU doesn't bunt well, you're assuming that Gibbs or anyone else can get the bunt down. And to pinch hit for Gibbs is unrealistic. You're not going to take you backstop out of the game, even if he's airmailing balls to second.

I think his belief in his hitters to get the job done won out over his baseball knowledge.
Posted by JohnLSU
Death Valley, LA
Member since Aug 2007
7923 posts
Posted on 6/7/10 at 2:35 am to
I don't care if they're not very good in bunting you try to bunt in situations like this and you try until you get it right, Guys on third and 2nd with one or zero waiting to score. Its better than hitting the ball straight to a double play like it happened several times in this series.
This post was edited on 6/7/10 at 2:36 am
Posted by Jay Quest
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Posted on 6/7/10 at 2:37 am to
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I think his belief in his hitters to get the job done won out over his baseball knowledge.

I can buy into this explanation.
Posted by deuce985
Member since Feb 2008
27660 posts
Posted on 6/7/10 at 2:37 am to
Again, it goes against the philosophy that got LSU to the regional to begin with...

You can't call it a blunder. PM had logic behind his decision. It wasn't like it was a completely incompetent decision he made.

LSU won the NC on this same philosophy last year. I really don't see how people can question PM right now.
Posted by Jay Quest
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Posted on 6/7/10 at 2:41 am to
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PM had logic behind his decision

No, the logical decision was to advance the baserunners. There may have been contributing factors in Maineiri's decision but logic was not chief among them.
Posted by JohnLSU
Death Valley, LA
Member since Aug 2007
7923 posts
Posted on 6/7/10 at 2:45 am to
All these players in some point in time have learned to bunt. If they can hit the ball to the wall at will, I'm sure they can hit the ball with the bat sticking out in front of the catcher. If they can't do that wtf are they playing baseball for. The philosophy had nothing to do with it. It was the refusal to want to do it.


This post was edited on 6/7/10 at 2:47 am
Posted by stauros
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 6/7/10 at 2:45 am to
Sorry to say, but logic doesn't dictate that only one conclusion is correct. Just because your argument is logical doesn't mean that his reasoning for doing what he did wasn't logical as well.
Posted by Jay Quest
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Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 6/7/10 at 2:53 am to
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logic doesn't dictate that only one conclusion is correct.

True and I would never have used the word except to respond to a previous poster who chose it as a way to explain Maineiri's decision.
This post was edited on 6/7/10 at 2:56 am
Posted by JohnLSU
Death Valley, LA
Member since Aug 2007
7923 posts
Posted on 6/7/10 at 2:54 am to
The logical thing to do was to bunt rather than chancing a hit to a double play or hitting a pop up within the infield. In this game LSU wasn't hitting the ball effectively. Bunting would have given you a better chance.

Bunt the ball, have third run on the bunt and try to score. Defender picks the ball up and tries to get the hitter out. Ties the ball game.

Posted by Elleshoe
Wade’s World
Member since Jun 2004
143780 posts
Posted on 6/7/10 at 2:55 am to
I put more blame in that situation on Gibbs, Nola, and Landry either way though. All 3 trying to hit the long ball and they popped out. Nothing to even get the man to third. Hell, you almost HAVE to bet that Gibbs could have hit something deep enough to sac Mahtook over. Then your catcher is still in the game, you didn't ask him to do something he isn't great at, and the tying run is 90 feet away with 1 out.
Posted by Sports2
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3724 posts
Posted on 6/7/10 at 2:58 am to
I think he did, it just went to left, so Mahtook couldn't advance.

I just got done cutting the hilites, how about those two inning ending double plays. Yikes.
Posted by Jay Quest
Once removed from Massachusetts
Member since Nov 2009
10721 posts
Posted on 6/7/10 at 2:59 am to
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I put more blame in that situation on Gibbs, Nola, and Landry either way though.

I agree if the coach is not going to bunt the runners over then the hitters must find a way to advance them. Gibbs and Nola both failed. I don't put the same expectation on Leon since he came up with two outs and an entirely different situation.
Posted by Elleshoe
Wade’s World
Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 6/7/10 at 3:00 am to
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don't put the same expectation on Leon since he came up with two outs and an entirely different situation.


true. either way they all hit 3 shallow flies.
Posted by BayouBengals18
Fort Worth
Member since Jan 2009
9843 posts
Posted on 6/7/10 at 3:18 am to
He was talking about me. I'm sorry, I've been posting on the rant too much lately and picked up some bad ranter habits haha. We could have played "west coast" ball and bunted once to advance the runners, then squeeze bunted a run home in the next AB.
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
54820 posts
Posted on 6/7/10 at 3:51 am to
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We could have played "west coast" ball and bunted once to advance the runners, then squeeze bunted a run home in the next AB


this.

i was watching the game at a bar in arabi and when that happened i was like "bunting is for pussies. let's win or lose the LSU way."

even though gillespie's crew beat us they still didn't win the regional so we have the edge over them...
Posted by Bobby Moore
Red Hill, Mississippi
Member since Jun 2005
17751 posts
Posted on 6/7/10 at 4:44 am to
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The more I watch Paul Maineiri
the more I'm convinced managing in game situations is not his strongest attribute.


This is said a lot about Miles also. Would you rather have a great practice coach or a better game manager coach?
Posted by tiger chaser
Birmingham Ala
Member since Feb 2008
7721 posts
Posted on 6/7/10 at 6:35 am to
Take your Navy optimism to the Navy board....as if you could coach better...
Posted by Jay Quest
Once removed from Massachusetts
Member since Nov 2009
10721 posts
Posted on 6/7/10 at 6:53 am to
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....as if you could coach better...

Now this is what I refer to as a typical ranter response. In fact, I'm disappointed it took this long to surface. Thanks.
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