re: The LesBechler Theory

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I hear ya, but, I witnessed a run of several games with my own eyes of J. Lee successfully managing the offense in 2011, only to be arbitrarily replaced with JJ.

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I saw the Kentucky game. I think Les did too.

I remember the La. Tech game. I think Les did too.

The Kentucky game was the first game with JJ back on the team. The Tech game was the first meaningful playing time for Lee in a while.

Both games had the same thing in common...pressure to perform to prove you deserve to stay on the field. The results were:

Jarrett Lee 7-22 105 yds 4.8 yd/att
Jarrett Lee 8-21 169 yds 8.0 yd/att

I think Miles knew he was dealing with the same problems as usual and managed as best he could.

Even if they were comparable, the number of memorable examples of tough schedules like that is tiny. He could name four out of about 2500 schedules. Even if he could find 50, that puts LM in the top 2%.

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you're not nearly as smart as you obviously think you are. what boat would he be rocking? seriously...what the frick are you talking about?

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I'll attempt to explain it on here, again, as you clearly have trouble with my metaphors:

the boat (a noun): the state of the program at Saban's departure; that is, a program with all the hallmarks of an elite one.

rock (a verb): doing other than maintaining -- hiring quality coordinators (and letting them do their jobs); recruit, motivate, manage, and *coach -- by tinkering with what's been working (Seasons 1-3).

I'm just putting it out there, precarious as it may appear to be. Attacking me (e.g. "you're a moron") instead of countering my arguments with your own points, by the way, is classical signs of not knowing how to argue. And why would someone not know how to argue...hmmm, I don't know, perhaps intelligence?

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the boat (a noun): the state of the program at Saban's departure; that is, a program with all the hallmarks of an elite one.

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GTFO of here with that shite.

LSU was NOT an elite program in 2004.

LSU had TWO seasons of less than 3 losses in the previous 17 years and one of them came under DiNardo.

Same old tired shite. Miles is Coker. LSU was nowhere near the level of Miami when he took over LSU.

Saban was great, I've never tried to belittle what he accomplished here, but the idea that LSU was some football juggernaut at the end of the 2004 season is simply not true and revisionist history.

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Then stop following it and let people continue to enjoy the golden age of it.

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I legitimately think the peak of LSU's golden age may be over. i dont think the decline will be rapid and it might not be drastic, but i think the pinnacle was the day before 1/9.

Rome wasn't built in a day and it didn't fall in one either. I think some LSU fans suffer from the Bill Polian syndrome. If you are winning then lets not take an honest evaluation of every part of an organization. Polian didnt take an honest look at his personnel while Manning was collecting Ws. Manning was a HUGE band aid for a lot of leaks on that team. When he was out they fell apart. Contrast that to the Pats when Brady went out. Cassell won 11 games and almost made the playoffs, but Miami also went 11-5, bc Belicheck refused to not push it.

Just because you won X amount of games doesnt mean you are clicking on all cylinders. The spark and excitement of Dinardo's "magic" was capitalized on an sustained by Saban's success, which made is popular for La kids to stay in state.

the talent La has put out the last 3 or 4 years has been the best ever for a state that has the most talent in the NFL per capita. I think LA will stay fertile, but wont produce year after the guys of the last 4 years. Miles has consistently out-talented people instead of out coaching or out-preparing them. My fear is that if the overall talent coming out of La. will somewhat decrease combined with such a poor showing in BCS NCG, and some top kids leaving LA will give other kids the thought its ok the leave the state as well.

I just fear that without the over-flow of talent LSu might not be as successful in the next 10 years as the were in the previous 10.

this is my last post in this thread because I've said enough. Did I think questioning *CLM or using an asterisk next to his initials would win me favor with the average IQ of this forum? No.
Do I care? No.

Am I an LSU fan? Yes.

Did I graduate from LSU? Yes

So, how could I question the football coach with such a record to date?

Because based on what I have seen of *CLM (and I watch closely) there is something spurious about how he coaches. And because he makes the $$$ he does representing my school, I think I'm justified in scrutinizing him commensurately; that is, to the level that I have with my theories.

I know I'm in the minority with my position on *CLM, but I am an LSU fan first.

Woah this thread is still going

Thank you for sticking with LSU. I might not agree with you but you are passionate for the tigers.

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Both played before Les Miles earned equity in the LSU Bank & Trust, i.e. in 2008 after Flynn led the Tigers to the BCS championship (for the 2007 season).

*CLM did not dare rock the boat (i.e. begin to tinker and install the LesBechler) until after he had the job security (the "equity") to do so. This, to me, may explain the inexplicable decision to pluck a hot-handed, several-games-undefeated JL and insert JJ. Why is this so hard for some to understand?

The LesBechler scheme will fail if that's his intention next season, is all I'm predicting here.

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You seem to be way too butt hurt and are justifying crap to look logical. The NC game seems to have hurt your ego more than you are admitting. This thread does not deserve these many pages.

Now regarding your facts. 2005 started and ended with Randall as QB. We had QB controversy that year too. Russell was benched for the bowl game and led LSU in the 4th qtr for 13 points. Fans were whining about Saban and his 2004 coaching as well.

Between Rusell and Flynn, Miles coached for 3 years. You seem to parse credit only as convenient for your dumb argument.

NC game was poorly played/coached. Les needs to do better, should he have a similar opportunity again. Beyond that, you are wasting way too much time calling your random thoughts - logic, theory, prediction and whatever crap comes to your mind.

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no comparison to 2011 schedule,try again.

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Oh really.

1987 Miami: wins against #20 UF, #10 Arkansas, #4 Florida State, #10 Notre Dame, #8 South Carolina, #1 Oklahoma

1990 Colorado: wins against #8 Tennessee , #21 Illinois, #20 Texas, #!2 Washington, #22 Oklahoma
#2 Nebraska, #6 Notre Dame

You're an idiot if you think Florida, Auburn, Mississippi State, Tennessee, Kentucky, Ole Miss were good. They all sucked...UF, AU, and MSU had ZERO business being ranked in the Top 25.

Oregon, W. Virginia, Alabama, Arkansas, and Georgia are the only teams LSU played that deserved to be ranked in Top 25. Don't be stupid!