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re: The difference between JL and JJ.
Posted on 10/11/11 at 12:03 pm to amiznit
Posted on 10/11/11 at 12:03 pm to amiznit
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Hopefully, but more than likely they were booing something they don't understand (or don't want to)
Unfortunately this. They will look for anything to boo him regardless of the fact that he played very well in his return. We have two QB's people. Deal with it.
As per the play, it was a smart decision not throwing into double coverage. Simple as that
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Posted on 10/11/11 at 12:03 pm to Vol Fan in the Bayou
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The difference between JL and JJ.
With Lee we are the #1 offense in the SEC
With Jefferson we are the #12 offense in the SEC.
Posted on 10/11/11 at 12:03 pm to Jumbeauxlaya
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I thought he was a dual-threat..
39 career TDs with double digits in both passing and rushing TDs.
Seems "dual-threat" like to me, but each to our own.
Posted on 10/11/11 at 12:04 pm to inebr8ted tiger
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The difference between JL and JJ.
Both QB's looked good saturday. JJ looked great on his pass 20 yds downfield to peterson and JL looked great on some deep throws. I think it is more the offensive gameplan than anything else. JJ was always good with play action.
Posted on 10/11/11 at 12:06 pm to LSU NO Tigah
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Is that why Lee was able to make the same pass with perfect accuracy last year
Was not the same pass and it was not the same route.
Football 101: The pass Lee threw to Tolliver was a fade. A fade is a pass thrown over the receivers outside shoulder so only the receiver and the receiver only has a chance to catch the ball.
The Tolliver throw was what as known as a "back door" fade...You show a fade route and throw it behind the receiver, forcing him to turn around, thus making is inside shoulder the outside shoulder. Peyton Manning is really good at this.
The Route Randel ran is what is known as an Out-route. That is wear the receiver runs down field and runs towards the sideline. It is a timing route against single coverage. That would be #4 on the passing tree.
Posted on 10/11/11 at 12:13 pm to LSUPHILLY72
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That would be #4 on the passing tree
I don't mean to be a willy or anything but that passing tree is goofy. There's no inside comeback and no skinny post. And what the heck is #7? The QB would be sacked by the time that route was run
Posted on 10/11/11 at 12:15 pm to Penrod
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And what the heck is #7
Post corner route? See TD's with it in almost every game.
Posted on 10/11/11 at 12:16 pm to Penrod
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And what the heck is #7? The QB would be sacked by the time that route was run
Watch the Packers...they run it all the time.
LSU ran it a lot with JaMarcus Russell.
Posted on 10/11/11 at 12:18 pm to Doom
I hope you're joking Because we're not close to #1
Posted on 10/11/11 at 12:19 pm to LSUPHILLY72
Actually...the out route would be the #1 and #3 route on this passing tree. This is aimed at a receiver lined up to the right side of the QB.
Posted on 10/11/11 at 12:20 pm to inebr8ted tiger
Wasn't a fade.
But yes, the timing was wrong on that play.
I don't believe either of our QBs "throw people open" though.
Both of them generally throw to wide open guys or throw the ball up for grabs.
But yes, the timing was wrong on that play.
I don't believe either of our QBs "throw people open" though.
Both of them generally throw to wide open guys or throw the ball up for grabs.
Posted on 10/11/11 at 12:20 pm to horndog
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I remember that play. It was there for a second and JJ knew it, but he was too scared to throw a pick, b/c he knew he wouldnt see the field for the rest of the game.
If he knew he wouldnt have gotten benched for a pick, he would have thrown it. I dont know who would have caught it, but he would have thrown it.
Oh, divine quarterback whisperer, can you tell me what JL's favorite color is?
Posted on 10/11/11 at 12:26 pm to junkfunky
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LSUPHILLY72
Thanks for explaining/showing our "fans" the difference between and fade and an out.....wow...our fanbase is amazing.
Posted on 10/11/11 at 12:26 pm to The Gooch
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JJ saw this immediately and had nowhere else to go
Is this were true, JJ would have tucked and run. The only bonus JJ gives us in the rd zone is the ability to run if the pass is not there. His recognition on that play was way late. He needed to throw it quick or run.
Posted on 10/11/11 at 12:27 pm to The Gooch
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RR was covered and JJ saw this immediately and had nowhere else to go.
But you have to have a running QB, so when there is no where to go, he can run... I mean this throwing the ball away to play the next down, or put three on the board is for the birds.
Posted on 10/11/11 at 12:29 pm to The312
JJ's throwing motion is better. You can tell by the throw to D. P. On the long 3rd down conversion. His wind up is a more compact and he doesn't start throwing with the ball as low as it used to be.
Posted on 10/11/11 at 12:30 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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JJ's throwing motion is better. You can tell by the throw to D. P. On the long 3rd down conversion. His wind up is a more compact and he doesn't start throwing with the ball as low as it used to be.
I agree.
He's still got a bit of a windup, but it's certainly quicker than it was.
Posted on 10/11/11 at 12:31 pm to slapahoe
I am almost certain he was double covered on that play, and throwing it away was the best alternative. Live to play another down. there is some truth to your observation.
Posted on 10/11/11 at 12:32 pm to Housplants
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Is this were true, JJ would have tucked and run. The only bonus JJ gives us in the rd zone is the ability to run if the pass is not there. His recognition on that play was way late. He needed to throw it quick or run.
What the hell are you talking about, there was nothing to recognize, it was a one receiver route. He looked, it wasn't there and he threw it away. Hell, there was a corner and a safety on the receiver. It is really that simple.
You guys need to find another example to back up the whole "JJ is dumb" rhetoric.
Posted on 10/11/11 at 12:33 pm to LSUPHILLY72
Exactly, these know it all fans just see that JJ made a horrible pass. People who know football know that Florida had the fade doubled and that JJ made the smart play. But all you hear on here is how awful a throw it was. Why can our"fans" cheer for the team and not just JLee
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