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re: Stubborn coaches and end results

Posted on 10/1/10 at 7:07 pm to
Posted by USMCTiger03
Member since Sep 2007
71176 posts
Posted on 10/1/10 at 7:07 pm to
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College Football is full of these guys. Some of the recent SEC examples at QB include.

Matthew Stafford
Jason Campbell
Brodie Croyle
Chris Leak

The point is developing QB's (as a general rule) takes time. Most of these guys played early because their schools did not have other options.
Good to go, I'll check em out.
Posted by LSU GrandDad
houston, texas
Member since Jun 2009
21564 posts
Posted on 10/1/10 at 7:16 pm to
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are there any examples where a player just wasn't cutting it over a long period of time and the coach stuck with the player and the player just magically began to shine and play at a high level?


that's a loaded question mack. in my life experience i have seen MANY PEOPLE THAT GAVE IT THEIR BEST not only came on to shine but to excell. they adapted and developed a toughness that served them well for their entire career. oh, and i've hired many professionals so i have experience in what i say. i see two flaws in your question though. the first is when you say a long period of time; that is up for interpretation to define a long period of time and the second is you phrase "magically began to shine". not only is the definition of shine debateable (sp), but magically conotes "all of a sudden". generally, the process is not magical nor intstantaneous. as far as football (i am a retired sales manager in a very competitive business) goes, i'll bet there are literally thousands of examples where that has occured.
Posted by LSU1NSEC
Member since Sep 2007
17243 posts
Posted on 10/1/10 at 7:54 pm to
Didn't Drew Brees have some bad early years in the pros?
Posted by yurintroubl
Dallas, Tx.
Member since Apr 2008
30190 posts
Posted on 10/1/10 at 7:59 pm to
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did a little research and found something a little sobering regarding the "end results" for QBs and WRs from The Hat's Okie State tenure....

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I don't remember a single damn one of them.


OMG, we are doomed for sure!!!!



If your definition of doomed is "History tends to repeat itself. As such - QBs and WRs will remain in the system for their entire 4 years and post workmanlike numbers but not the type of results that are NFL Draft-worthy" - Then yes. It seems there's a good chance we're doomed.
Posted by USMCTiger03
Member since Sep 2007
71176 posts
Posted on 10/1/10 at 8:10 pm to
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that's a loaded question mack.
It's really just a general question. To make it less vague would require a ridiculous degree of qualifications that likely would only raise even more issues.

So, again, I'm not drafting questions for the SAT, just looking for info or discussion.
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
87628 posts
Posted on 10/1/10 at 8:30 pm to
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Wrong.

No, it's not based on that premise. It contains that premise as a condition for the analysis.

Don't try so hard to be clever.


I'm not trying to impress you.

You asked a dumb question. I told you why it was dumb. Simple as that.
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