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re: So, now LSU has 2 mind-fricked QBs?

Posted on 10/16/09 at 9:32 am to
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 10/16/09 at 9:32 am to
dp, oops
This post was edited on 10/16/09 at 9:33 am
Posted by drexyl
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Posted on 10/16/09 at 9:35 am to
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many agree with my posts
Define "many"
Posted by Tomm
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Posted on 10/16/09 at 9:36 am to
Nonsense, the two I mentioned were right on target along and TT dropped a very catchable pass along the sidelines early in the game that he should have caught....not a drop per se because it was high, but the announcers said that he needs to catch that ball. No QB in history throws every pass perfectly on target. And the only QB I remember hitting players in stride played for LSU but the players catching the ball didn't (last year I believe it was).
Posted by Tomm
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Posted on 10/16/09 at 9:37 am to
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And that changes things how? Bottom line is that you NEVER take a sack on 4th down. Get the ball down the field and give someone a chance to make a play.


Utter nonsense when "someone" might be a defender who could run the throw back for 6 points. Sorry, been there, done that last season.
Posted by Tomm
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Posted on 10/16/09 at 9:39 am to
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I tried to tell you in that thread that I could care less about you. Guess that just didn't register.


Yet you made the challenge and then changed it before you ran away. And yet you continue to respond to me. And yet I answered your question about why I know more than you and you gave no solutions yourself.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 10/16/09 at 9:40 am to
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not a drop per se because it was high




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but the announcers said that he needs to catch that ball.


:banghead:
You claim to have insight, but you use people that say "Patrick fricking Patterson" to back you up. :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

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And the only QB I remember hitting players in stride played for LSU but the players catching the ball didn't (last year I believe it was).


Yea, Mauck and Flynn were terrible QBs in LSU history that never hit people in stride.
Posted by drexyl
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Posted on 10/16/09 at 9:40 am to
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No QB in history throws every pass perfectly on target.
Id settle for some instead of every. Most slants thrown vs UF the receiver was sliding to try to catch a 7 yard pass.

Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 10/16/09 at 9:41 am to
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And yet I answered your question about why I know more than you and you gave no solutions yourself.


What solutions do you have? Just a quick summary will suffice.
Posted by Tomm
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Posted on 10/16/09 at 9:43 am to
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but you use people that say "Patrick fricking Patterson" to back you up. Yea, Mauck and Flynn were terrible QBs in LSU history that never hit people in stride.


I will admit that I don't understand why many announcers can know Peterson's name. It isn't like LSU is a team without the names on the jerseys. That doesn't make them wrong on everything.

I remember Matt Flynn having 3 INTs in the first half of an Alabama game in 2007...guess you dont huh?
Posted by Tomm
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Posted on 10/16/09 at 9:45 am to
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d settle for some instead of every. Most slants thrown vs UF the receiver was sliding to try to catch a 7 yard pass.


63% completion rate and many times passes are thrown low based upon where the defender is....but you really knew that, right?
Posted by drexyl
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Posted on 10/16/09 at 9:46 am to
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Who was LSU playing on Saturday?


So what about the 4 sacks he took vs Ole Miss LAST YEAR or the 4 sacks he took vs Arkansas LAST YEAR? Better O line same result.



Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 10/16/09 at 9:47 am to
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I remember Matt Flynn having 3 INTs in the first half of an Alabama game in 2007...guess you dont huh?


I bet you remember us scoring more than 3 points by passing down the field. Way to pull one game out and say that's the norm BTW.

At least you didn't defend the announcers, there may be hope for you yet.
Posted by Tomm
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Posted on 10/16/09 at 9:47 am to
Problem : OL line blocking for both run and pass plays

Solution : Crowton needs to call more misdirection plays, both on runs and passes, to keep the DL and the LBers from moving across to the ball on first movement of the ball carrier. Everybody OC but Crowton knows that misdirection plays even work best against the teams that are the fastest since they take themselves out of the play.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 10/16/09 at 9:49 am to
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63% completion rate and many times passes are thrown low based upon where the defender is....but you really knew that, right?


Who cares how often he completes a pass if he can't get the ball to the end zone? He can throw for 900 yards and no picks, but if he doesn't score, who gives a shite.

I'll take 40% completion if there are 15 touchdowns instead of 7.
Posted by Tomm
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Posted on 10/16/09 at 9:50 am to
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I bet you remember us scoring more than 3 points by passing down the field. Way to pull one game out and say that's the norm BTW. At least you didn't defend the announcers, there may be hope for you yet.


I also remember a very good OL in the past...good times! As far as the announcers/analysts, I have said that ESPN has much better ones (Blackledge, Patrick, Davis, Franklin, Palmer, etc) than CBS where Verne should retire to Steamboat Springs and Danielson just likes to second guess every head coach and question every ref's call.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 10/16/09 at 9:51 am to
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Problem : OL line blocking for both run and pass plays

Solution : Crowton needs to call more misdirection plays, both on runs and passes, to keep the DL and the LBers from moving across to the ball on first movement of the ball carrier. Everybody OC but Crowton knows that misdirection plays even work best against the teams that are the fastest since they take themselves out of the play.


So JJ does nothing wrong in this whole scenario? He doesn't hold the ball too long and lock on to receivers (mainly LaFell)?
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 10/16/09 at 9:52 am to
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I also remember a very good OL in the past.


So what was the excuse for all of JJ's sacks at the end of last year, since we had a good Oline and all? You've dodged that question for about 2 pages now...
Posted by Tomm
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Posted on 10/16/09 at 9:53 am to
The OL and the playcalling determine a lot about how far you can throw down the field and when. Oh, and the defense has something to say about that also. LSU has done quite well (5-1) by not turning the ball over much and getting turnovers. And someone showed me this OL by itself and the schedule, I wouldn't have hoped for 5-1. It is poor!
Posted by Commando
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Posted on 10/16/09 at 9:53 am to
Yep-all we have to do is mention JJ, Jordan, Jefferson, sack, deep drop, OL, pick-six or nutsack and his pager goes off.

Tomm2000 is on its way-maybe even before his afternoon recess at HS gets here.
Posted by Commando
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Posted on 10/16/09 at 9:55 am to
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many times passes are thrown low based upon where the defender is


I was at the UF game, and not once do I remember seeing a defender laying down on the ground. Post some clips to show me.
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