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re: So explain how House was much better his first year than last year
Posted on 7/8/24 at 9:21 am to boweswi05
Posted on 7/8/24 at 9:21 am to boweswi05
Everyone in this thread is just wanting to point out that the talent level was different. And yeah, the talent level was definitely different but that doesn't give him the excuse to have the WORST defense in school history.
The fact of the matter is that he didn't know how to teach. He had a full offseason to coach up Perkins to play inside linebacker and after 1 or 2 games he was immediately put back on the edge. Is Perkins incapable of playing inside? I don't believe so.
He refused to do real adjustments in the middle of games. Bama is a perfect example of this.
And let's not act like he coach a great defense the year before. The defense had a couple of good games/halves but they also gave up 35 to Florida, 40 to Tennessee, 38 to Texas a&m (who went 5-7 btw), and 50 to Georgia.
At the end of the day, his coaching ability was never that great while he was here and was carried by the players we had in 22. Once those players were gone and we had to rely on his coaching ability we ended up with the worst defense in school history. There are plenty of coaches out there that are able to do more with less so the talent discussion is meaningless. I'm not asking for him to have a top 25 defense last year. But having a top 60 could have resulted in a national championship.
The fact of the matter is that he didn't know how to teach. He had a full offseason to coach up Perkins to play inside linebacker and after 1 or 2 games he was immediately put back on the edge. Is Perkins incapable of playing inside? I don't believe so.
He refused to do real adjustments in the middle of games. Bama is a perfect example of this.
And let's not act like he coach a great defense the year before. The defense had a couple of good games/halves but they also gave up 35 to Florida, 40 to Tennessee, 38 to Texas a&m (who went 5-7 btw), and 50 to Georgia.
At the end of the day, his coaching ability was never that great while he was here and was carried by the players we had in 22. Once those players were gone and we had to rely on his coaching ability we ended up with the worst defense in school history. There are plenty of coaches out there that are able to do more with less so the talent discussion is meaningless. I'm not asking for him to have a top 25 defense last year. But having a top 60 could have resulted in a national championship.
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Posted on 7/8/24 at 9:31 am to boweswi05
quote:whose job is it to bring in the players?
How can you improve if you don't have the players?
You laid out how much better the players were in 22 than 23.
So how was he supposed to improve?
And also, a coach can only be good if they have the players? Hell, I could be a servicable DC if I have elite defensive talent.
The true measure of a coach is what they can do with lesser talent. That means they have to work harder to teach and develop those players. They have to scheme around their weaknesses, and employ other tactics (besides raw athleticism) to confuse and negate the opponent's strength.
With elite talent, you can basically just roll them out on the field and they'll be good.
With lesser talent, you actually have to work harder - but good coaches can do it. House did zero last year.
Posted on 7/8/24 at 10:12 am to Jcorye1
quote:Sage's biggest problem is he's built like a nickel but is better as a boundary CB. He's been horrendous lining up anywhere but outside of the numbers, but pretty much every other CB on the roster has more potential in that role than him. Do you want average Sage Ryan at CB for 12 games? Or do you take some lumps with below average production from a guy like stamps for 3 games and then watch him turn it on with experience and play like an SEC CB in the back half of the season.
Sage is an average SEC CB, he shouldn't be lining up against #1s and good #2s can beat him. It sucks he didn't live up to his five star billing, but we have got to the point where we are getting mad at him for being average.
Posted on 7/8/24 at 10:17 am to tiger25
quote:House was arse in 23 and deserved to be fired, but in 22 none of those are necessarily bad.
And let's not act like he coach a great defense the year before. The defense had a couple of good games/halves
quote:One of the few on games for Richardson. When he played well he was unstoppable.
35 to Florida
quote:Top 5 offense in the country, LSU also turned the ball over at midfield twice.
40 to Tennessee
quote:Maybe the only game all year where they were healthy and one of their TDs was defensive.
38 to Texas a&m (who went 5-7 btw)
quote:I was at this game. The defense was so gassed, no coach was slowing any above average offense down that day.
50 to Georgia
What I don't get is how he seemingly lost the ability to make any worthwhile adjustments. It's like he stuck to the gameplan no matter what. The lack of a spy on Milroe still infuriates me to this day. We could have won that game going away by putting Perkins on Milroe.
Posted on 7/8/24 at 10:50 am to boweswi05
There was no true DL coach or legitimate DB coach in the building last year.
Posted on 7/8/24 at 11:16 am to boweswi05
As others have stated, House inherited some decent players year one and benefited greatly from portal guys coming in with years of experience and solid coaching.
The defense however never really improved in either year. There was a lack of development and player coaching on that side of the ball. 2014 was an awful defense at the beginning of the year and ended up being one of the best in the nation at the end. In hindsight it's easy to say that when you look at the NFL careers of the guys on that roster but Chavis made the changes necessary to fix that mess.
The defense however never really improved in either year. There was a lack of development and player coaching on that side of the ball. 2014 was an awful defense at the beginning of the year and ended up being one of the best in the nation at the end. In hindsight it's easy to say that when you look at the NFL careers of the guys on that roster but Chavis made the changes necessary to fix that mess.
Posted on 7/8/24 at 11:42 am to boweswi05
We TOTALLY whiffed on the portal guys.
Speights was terribly undersized and terrible.
Harris was a head case.
Chestnut was garbage.
Zy tore his ACL.
The portal giveth and the portal taketh away.
And House sucked. Not playing Whit Weeks b/c he's young & doesn't know the defense .... FOH
Speights was terribly undersized and terrible.
Harris was a head case.
Chestnut was garbage.
Zy tore his ACL.
The portal giveth and the portal taketh away.
And House sucked. Not playing Whit Weeks b/c he's young & doesn't know the defense .... FOH
Posted on 7/8/24 at 12:17 pm to KennesawTiger
quote:Nope. I followed this around the time he was hired. They were saying he was not the major reason for their defensive turnaround. It was the guy under him who is their current defensive coach. What you saw was some revisionists who saw what he did with LSU's 2022 defense and didn't understand why he tanked after.
No they didn't. Most Kentucky people were envious that he was here(his defenses were ranked near the top of the conference in his time there) and were shocked at how bad he tanked.
You probably don't remember this either, but LSU tried to get Brad White from Kentucky before settling on House weeks later.
Posted on 7/8/24 at 12:23 pm to JimTiger72
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Hit & Miss in the portal
Mekhi Garner and Bernard-converse >>> Denver Harris, Duce Chestnut, Zy Alexander
Zy Alexander is serviceable.
He might be a starter this yr.
Posted on 7/8/24 at 1:02 pm to atltiger6487
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whose job is it to bring in the players? And also, a coach can only be good if they have the players? Hell, I could be a servicable DC if I have elite defensive talent.
The true measure of a coach is what they can do with lesser talent. That means they have to work harder to teach and develop those players.
LSU was hit with the perfect storm last year. A lot of our fans don’t want to believe it, but it’s true.
1.Our brand new D-line coach had a major health problem in August that caused him to miss the entire season. LSU was not able to replace him thus our D-line had no position coach for the entire year.
2. Greg Brooks, our QB on defense, had a major heart problem in August that caused him to miss the entire year.
3. We had to replace, again, our entire transfer portal secondary. Two of the best transfers got hurt (Johnson in August and missed the entire season) and Alexander who got hurt in October and missed the remainder of the season.
4. We were thin as hell on the D-line, because our previous head coach quit recruiting d-linemen his last two years here.
Not only was LSU’s defense not nearly as talented as in previous years it was thin as hell. You combine weak talent with a thin roster, no d line coach and losing our defensive leader Brooks for the season and you have the perfect storm of a really really bad defense.
Posted on 7/8/24 at 1:18 pm to boweswi05
Easy. He didn’t have a D-line coach.
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